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The way I see it is that we were quite happy to keep going the way we were. It was the bank that forced the issue and refused to let us borrow any more money. Other than sell players below market value how exactly have the club been getting their house in order. Have they addressed the failure to maximise our commercial and marketing revenue, have they got any idea how to resolve the stadium issue? They have done sweet fa. Let's not pretend this is the result of any planned strategy that they have introduced.

Very probably mate. But your talking about different things here. I think they happy to keep plodding along, safe in the knowledge they had access to credit, unfortunately the global meltdawn happened and banks got jittery about 10s of mils of lines of credit. We defo got a kick in the backside 24 months back.

So what do you do you, take remdial action to stay within in your cost base without the need for day to day running credit. Hence the cutting of the wage boll and the letting go of very high earners stratgically, no i dont think its happned by accident.

As for the marketing and stadium stuff, ive posted extensively and cirtically about it in the board thread - there different issues really - from the OP terms of reference
 
Jesus H. Christ.

That's probably relegation material.

Thats utter Sh... the team is a team, we have a togetherness that not many other teams have, also there are some big changes ahead and personally I am made up Rodwell is gone it gives Moyes some decent money to do as he pleases. However if it comes to the "where is the Rodwell money Bill" then there is a problem, however I dont think that will happen, Moyes has something up his sleeve he always does, he wouldnt have let Cahill go nor Rodwell at that fact. I think there is far too much negativity regarding this sale and plus £12m or £15m will seem small change soon anyway. Just look forward to a week tomorrow FFS and 3 points against Man Ure
 
The BBC's football correspondent, Phil McNulty, said we had sold him for £12 million. If we look at the last two young england midfielders to be sold in big money deals we have Henderson sold for £20 million and Allen sold for £15 million.

He,s welsh.

Rodwells fee according to Mcnulty is 12m up front rising to 17m.
 
Very probably mate. But your talking about different things here. I think they happy to keep plodding along, safe in the knowledge they had access to credit, unfortunately the global meltdawn happened and banks got jittery about 10s of mils of lines of credit. We defo got a kick in the backside 24 months back.

So what do you do you, take remdial action to stay within in your cost base without the need for day to day running credit. Hence the cutting of the wage boll and the letting go of very high earners stratgically, no i dont think its happned by accident.

As for the marketing and stadium stuff, ive posted extensively and cirtically about it in the board thread - there different issues really - from the OP terms of reference
If you are looking to sell the club to get maximum return on your investment then you pay down your debt by selling your assets. If you can do this and stay in the Premiership you are onto a winner. I think its a fairly safe bet that we can carry on doing this with Moyes as the manager. But you've surely got to address your income streams and see how you can maximise them? I see no real attempt to do this. I see no ambition to progress as a club and that is where I have a big problem with the approach that we are taking. It looks forced upon us and we are just going along with it. I could go on but I think you get the point.
 
He,s welsh.

Rodwells fee according to Mcnulty is 12m up front rising to 17m.

Yeah you've got me there about Allen being Welsh, still I think its a fair comparison to make. These add ons are all if buts and maybe's though, at the minute all we are guaranteed is £12 million
 
Let the season start and if we play s***e then fair enough, personally I'm quite excited to see us play this season
 
Yeah you've got me there about Allen being Welsh, still I think its a fair comparison to make. These add ons are all if buts and maybe's though, at the minute all we are guaranteed is £12 million

Well if the add ons are in relation to trophies they win, its near enough a guarantee we will see it. Their attempts at world domination are not going to stop now they have won 1 league title.
 
If you are looking to sell the club to get maximum return on your investment then you pay down your debt by selling your assets. If you can do this and stay in the Premiership you are onto a winner. I think its a fairly safe bet that we can carry on doing this with Moyes as the manager. But you've surely got to address your income streams and see how you can maximise them? I see no real attempt to do this. I see no ambition to progress as a club and that is where I have a big problem with the approach that we are taking. It looks forced upon us and we are just going along with it. I could go on but I think you get the point.

Presuming we are paying down our debt which is a big if for me....if im honest i think we are.

Of course your right mate, but its chicken and egg to make money you got to spend money and there in lies the prob, stadium, infrastructure, merchandising, sponsorship etc - we hit a glass ceiling 3 years ago and been there since. I think its all well and good saying commerical revenue etc, but in reality that comes out of fans pockets, lets be honest most would fume if their season ticket went up by 20 quid, while their were fuming threads aboout the price of the kit this year. With people stretched for cash, dwindleing attendences etc - all these commercial and revenue opurtunites pepole bang on about - dont actually have any real life relavence, or take account of market forces, in fact i know people whove given lectures on the clubs marketing and commercial untaken oppurtunites - who wont renew there season tickets.

In the scheme of things its small potateos, yet important i know, the big money in TV, turnover has increased by 300% as a result since this board has been in charge largely due to TV.
 
Well if the add ons are in relation to trophies they win, its near enough a guarantee we will see it. Their attempts at world domination are not going to stop now they have won 1 league title.

We'll have to wait and see what the small print is. Greg O'Keefe was saying on talksport that they were based on his appearances for Man City and England. If that's the case I'm not to confident as I don't think he'll end up getting a lot of games.
 
lcab says a vast majority will be re-investing into the squad, just wait and see what happens with the money before jumping to conclusions. if we spunk 9 million on fecking dempsey, fume away with me
 
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