Positive spin?

[jceverton]

Presuming we are paying down our debt which is a big if for me....if im honest i think we are.

Of course your right mate, but its chicken and egg to make money you got to spend money and there in lies the prob, stadium, infrastructure, merchandising, sponsorship etc - we hit a glass ceiling 3 years ago and been there since. I think its all well and good saying commerical revenue etc, but in reality that comes out of fans pockets, lets be honest most would fume if their season ticket went up by 20 quid, while their were fuming threads aboout the price of the kit this year. With people stretched for cash, dwindleing attendences etc - all these commercial and revenue opurtunites pepole bang on about - dont actually have any real life relavence, or take account of market forces, in fact i know people whove given lectures on the clubs marketing and commercial untaken oppurtunites - who wont renew there season tickets.

In the scheme of things its small potateos, yet important i know, the big money in TV, turnover has increased by 300% as a result since this board has been in charge largely due to TV.

If you look at the kit deal that we have in place and then compare that to other clubs like Villa then we should be making £5-6 million extra a year. That's not small change that's the difference between making a loss and breaking even. I agree with you about the price of tickets I don't think that is something we should be looking to increase given the current economic climate with people struggling. I've just got no faith about the way the club is being run since Kenwright ****ed up the Kings Dock!

 

[McBain]

Which is the better squad? Looking at these I'd say were at least 5 players light of a competitive squad.

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[Neiler]

If you look at the kit deal that we have in place and then compare that to other clubs like Villa then we should be making £5-6 million extra a year. That's not small change that's the difference between making a loss and breaking even. I agree with you about the price of tickets I don't think that is something we should be looking to increase given the current economic climate with people struggling. I've just got no faith about the way the club is being run since Kenwright ****ed up the Kings Dock!

I did a massive peice on the kit deal mate after the KEIOC article, its in the board thread, be carefull when looking at the figuers overall some clubs have the distribution and sponsorship all linked up with the manufacture - the like of Villa, were our deal from manufacture (Nike) and distribution (Kit Bag) are seprate - its not the smoking gun it appears to be. The big one to be honest for me is Chang - we could do miles better comparatively.

 

[linglong]

The squad does seem a bit think nowadays but some of the players from way back when weren't that good if i recal rightly

 

[jceverton]

I did a massive peice on the kit deal mate after the KEIOC article, its in the board thread, be carefull when looking at the figuers overall some clubs have the distribution and sponsorship all linked up with the manufacture - the like of Villa, were our deal from manufacture (Nike) and distribution (Kit Bag) are seprate - its not the smoking gun it appears to be. The big one to be honest for me is Chang - we could do miles better comparatively.

I'll have a look at what you wrote about the kit deal and I agree with you about Chang. Either way there's definitely untapped potential to increase revenue which we should be addressing.

 

[mawders]

Squad, what squad?

Somebody tell me what happens if and when Jelavic gets injured, or Baines?

It's horrendous!

er, we get cahill back on loan for jelvic. obviously

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Well said, your very right to be worried.

I just pray Moyes is given the money to reinvest, if so it could be a good deal. but iv got a feeling he wont see much of it.


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[TheFinnFan]

Id say the club, was in trouble 15 months ago - overshot in a big way on contracts it couldnt afford.

What we have seen is getting the house in order, reduced the ewage bill in a big way. Cleared out some dead wood and looks like the begining of another team cycle.

spot on mate.