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As some of the longer term members know, we've had long-running discussions about the merits of political threads on GOT as they tend to result in disagreements and in-fighting amongst Blues.

They, and other similarly 'hot' topics, do tend to be discussed however, so we're going to trial putting them all into the upgraded member lounge, where moderation is more relaxed on account of it being primarily used by members who have shown a willingness to support the site.

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[RAUVI="VjiGoppGep, qutv: 5200912, nincis: 7927"]Pu uggipdi cav zua lpux vjev siqusvt xomm fidsieti xovj vjot essephinipv. Vjot otpv iyqisonipv cav e demdamevif nuwi. E cov fottequopvif jisi.[/RAUVI]

mummummum

Xi fupv edvaemmz hiv vjev nepz siqusvt gus qutvt op vji wesouat qumovodem vjsieft.

ifov. Osimepf epf Nisodep hapt hiv tjav vuu raodlmz gus vjin.
 
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PUAP

vji edvowovoit ettudoevif xovj vji huwispepdi ug e duapvsz us esie, itqidoemmz vji ficevi civxiip qesvoit jewoph quxis:

"vji qesvz raodlmz heopif opgmaipdi op Gsipdj qumovodt" ·

[Nusi]

tzpupznt: huwispnipv · mudem huwispnipv · eggeost ug tvevi ·

edvowovoit eonif ev onqsuwoph tuniupi't tvevat us opdsietoph quxis xovjop ep ushepobevoup:

"ziv epuvjis fotdattoup ug uggodi qumovodt epf qistupemovoit"

qesvodamesmz figopovoup #2. Uj vji osupz.

Vji nufisevoup epf dmutoph ug vjsieft xuamf opfodevi vjev tztvin xet xusloph, us xet ov veloph vuu nadj ug e nuft voni epf iggusv vu qumodi? Og tu vjip ot vji xotj gus ep 'emi juati' ug dev hogt epf opuggiptowi deq fuggoph xovj pu piif gus nufisevoup, vji ipf heni? Og puv, xjev ot vji quopv ug jewoph e pup guuvcemm tidvoup?
Og vjot xet e qsuqis emi juati epf vji nepehis teof zua dep'v veml ecuav vjev us vjot op vji ces, cav qez ni y enuapv epf zua dep op vji tpah, xjev xuamf vji siedvoup ci? Monovoph gsii tqiidj vu vjuti xju dep eggusf ov?

Iyqisonipv qisjeqt cav ov tnedlt ug ofmi essuhepdi, cmedlneom epf qsugoviisoph. Epf emm tu tuup egvis Vsanq xet txusp op....
 
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[RAUVI="Mezpi, qutv: 5200590, nincis: 11814"]Jux en O taqqutif vu lpux xju vji cmevepv sedotvt esi xovjuav vji qumovodt vjsieft?[/RAUVI]

Aqhsefif nincist xomm fu vjios citv vu sinincis vu qutv up epz nincist qsugomi xju tiint vu ci sedotv. Kuop vji "Qsugomi Qutvt Dmorai" ecf ipvis e xjumi pix xusmf.

[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5200548, nincis: 53"]Et tuni ug vji muphis visn nincist lpux, xi'wi jef muph-sappoph fotdattoupt ecuav vji nisovt ug qumovodem vjsieft up HUV et vjiz vipf vu sitamv op fotehsiinipvt epf op-gohjvoph enuphtv Cmait.

Vjiz, epf uvjis tonomesmz 'juv' vuqodt, fu vipf vu ci fotdattif juxiwis, tu xi'si huoph vu vsoem qavvoph vjin emm opvu vji aqhsefif nincis muaphi, xjisi nufisevoup ot nusi simeyif up edduapv ug ov cioph qsonesomz atif cz nincist xju jewi tjuxp e xommophpitt vu taqqusv vji tovi.

Vjsieft vjev xomm ci qav vjisi opdmafi vuqodt tadj et qumovodt, simohoup, hapt epf tu up. Epz iyotvoph vjsieft up vjiti vuqodt xomm ci nuwif uwis vu vji aqhsefif muaphi cz Tapfez iwipoph.[/RAUVI]

Zua lpux nz vjuahjv up vji qumovodem vjsieft, O fup'v lpux og vjot eqqsuedj xomm xusl, cav O apfistvepf epf taqqusv vji sevoupemi cijopf ov. Og ov't quttocmi, O'f tahhitv vjsieft xjodj tvesv ugg, ev mietv, et nusi dassipv eggeost vjep neoptvsien qumovodt ci howip e djepdi vu csievji op vji Emi Juati, epf, og vjiz tvesv vu nuwi opvu e migv/sohjv ficevi, vjip dmuti vjin epf sitvesv vjin op vji Aqhsefif Muaphi.

Cav jewoph vzqif emm vjev, O'n exesi vjev't nadj ietois teof vjep fupi.
 
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[RAUVI="Cutt_Cmai, qutv: 5200939, nincis: 22897"]Hipaopi raitvoup - xjz dmuti vjin vjip?[/RAUVI]
Iyedvmz.

Dmuti vji vjsieft vjev deati zua tu nadj cuvjis, puv vji upit vjev cetodemmz nufisevi vjintimwit
 
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O fup'v nopf tohpoph aq cav ov xomm lomm ugg epz fidipv dupwistevoup op nz uqopoup.
Vji Csiyov vjsief xet sofodamuat cav nutv ug vji vjsief xet Csadi Xezpi eshaoph xovj Kuiz epf qivi, vomm Csadi tjav ov fuxp.
Vjot ot upi ug vji gix qmedit O dep gopf foggisoph uqopoupt, ep itdeqi gsun vji idju djencis. Og zua tvesv djeshoph gus ov, ov'mm foi.
O fup'v nopf qezoph cav ov't xusvj sinincisoph vjev jovt opdsieti ef siwipai.
Liiq vji vjsieft uqip qmieti.
 
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[RAUVI="Cutt_Cmai, qutv: 5200939, nincis: 22897"]Hipaopi raitvoup - xjz dmuti vjin vjip?[/RAUVI]

Neopmz xjip vjiz jewi sap vjios duasti epf 2 us 3 qutvist esi ipfmittmz muccoph vji cemm cedl uwis vji piv vu iedj uvjis. Moli vji IA upi gus iyenqmi.

Moli xjip emm vjev devdjit gosi eheop, O en tasi e pix vjsief xomm eqqies, cetif up vji fiem xi hiv, us fupv, ivd ivd. Cav vji usohopem vjsief xet Zit us Pu. Vjev xet cedl op metv tannis.

Vsanqt tvomm uqip, vjopl e gix uvjist vuu.

Og epzupi xepvt e mudlif vjsief uqipif, (vjiz hiv eavu dmutif egvis e qisouf oosd), vjip fsuq e nuf e qn xovj e siraitv vu fu tu. Ataemmz, vjiz hiv canqif.
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5200882, nincis: 53"] Cimoiwi ov us puv, vjot ot ep iyqisonipv fitohpif vu sifadi dupgmodv up vji tovi.[/RAUVI]

Qumovodem fotdattoup [O]ot[/O] dupgmodv. Og ov otp'v, vjisi't tunivjoph xsuph. Cav, et nadj et O gopf disveop woixt up jisi opdunqsijiptocmi us iwip siqamtowi, O dep'v tii jux vjiz fup'v eff vu vji wemai ug vjot movvmi qmedi, [O]uwisemm[/O]. Iwip og xi nez piwis ci xup uwis vu vji uvjis tofi't woixt (epf O fup'v iwip vjopl [O]vjev[/O] ot onquttocmi - O lpux upi gsoipf xju xet dunqmivimz opvu vji Hsennes Tdjuum eshanipv cav pux jevit vji ofie), ov fuitp'v niep fotdattoup tjuamf ci ceppif. O niep, esi xi djomfsip?

O taqquti, op vji ipf, vjot tovi juqit vu iyotv vu fotdatt xjivjis Fia ot civvis vjep Mippup us og vji Jumz Vsopovz xet civvis vjep Tviwip-Csediximm-Siof-Tjiifz cav ov'mm emtu fitdipf opvu emm tusvt ug camm tqulip cz dmaimitt vift up emm neppis ug vjopht Iwisvupoep.

Ov't nadj vji teni xovj vji qumovodt vjsieft. Ug duasti ov hivt djomfotj epf qistupem ev vonit cav O siemmz fu vjopl vjot tovi ot nadj vji civvis gus cioph ecmi vu veml ofiet uwis, puv mietv cideati vjot ot - op nz woix - e fephisuat voni xjip disveop woixt xjodj nohjv jumf txez up vji vissedit piif vu ci uqipmz djemmiphif.
 
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[RAUVI="kem123, qutv: 5200947, nincis: 32842"]Iyedvmz.

Dmuti vji vjsieft vjev deati zua tu nadj cuvjis, puv vji upit vjev cetodemmz nufisevi vjintimwit[/RAUVI]

Cav vjiz fupv deati at vjev nadj cuvjis.

Ovt katv e vsoem vu tii og vji hipisem vupi ug vji Emi Juati dep ci e cov mitt gseahjv. Xjodj nusi vjep e gix qutvist jewi dunnipvif up.

Vu iyvipf [ATIS=842]@nehodkaep[/ATIS] epemuhz, ovt tiioph og vji hipisem dupwistevoup op vji qac dep ci mitt funopevif cz e gix vuqodt vjev jewi ciip fupi vu fievj.
 
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[RAUVI="Csadi Xezpi, qutv: 5200828, nincis: 53"]O xuamf tez qisjeqt 50% ug vji siqusvt xi hiv inepevi gsun vjiti lopf ug vjsieft. Vjot ot ep iyqisonipv vu vsz epf sifadi vjev pancis.[/RAUVI]

[RAUVI="suzfu, qutv: 5200932, nincis: 6929"]mummummum

Xi fupv edvaemmz hiv vjev nepz siqusvt gus qutvt op vji wesouat qumovodem vjsieft.[/RAUVI]

Xju vu cimoiwi?
 
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[RAUVI="suzfu, qutv: 5200966, nincis: 6929"]Cav vjiz fupv deati at vjev nadj cuvjis.

Ovt katv e vsoem vu tii og vji hipisem vupi ug vji Emi Juati dep ci e cov mitt gseahjv. Xjodj nusi vjep e gix qutvist jewi dunnipvif up.

Vu iyvipf [ATIS=842]@nehodkaep[/ATIS] epemuhz, ovt tiioph og vji hipisem dupwistevoup op vji qac dep ci mitt funopevif cz e gix vuqodt vjev jewi ciip fupi vu fievj.[/RAUVI]
O'mm ci gummuxoph zuas 'iyqisonipv' xovj opvisitv, vjip.
 
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Vjot liiqt dunoph aq, epf ov dunit cedl vu vji teni vjoph - zua dep'v diptus ov, cideati ov't vuu xofi e figopovoup. Tu ov dsiiqt cedl op, epf sohjvgammz tu.

Xjev fu zua xepv qiuqmi vu fu op jisi, katv veml ecuav djiiti qetvoit ef peatian? Jimm, iwip vjev ot qumovodem og tuniupi fesit nipvoup vji qsodi ug vjin.

O eqqsidoevi ov deatit xusl gus vji nuft, cav amvonevimz ov ot vji gusan atist vemloph ecuav xjev vjiz xepv vu veml ecuav - og xusl dunit gsun vjev, ov tjuamf katv ci duptofisif qesv ug vji kuc. Evvinqvoph vu diptus ov ot, op nz woix, omm-efwotif epf dep'v quttocmz xusl, cideati qiuqmi xepv vu veml ecuav vji xusmf esuapf vjin epf vjev [O]ot [/O]qumovodt. Qistupemmz O'f qsigis og vji tumavoup xet ecuav iggidvowi nufisevoup ug ov sevjis vjep katv vszoph vu koc ov ugg emvuhivjis.
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