Pink Floyd

[CrustySack]

Led Zeppelin are crap. You can count the good songs they've created on one hand.

 

[dholliday]

DSOTM is timeless. It is the greatest album of all time by anybody bar none.

Great Gig & Money are so good there's no words to properly describe them.

My top 3 are
Meddle
Saucer
Piper

Tempted to go see Nick Masons band next month in Manchester who im told only do the early stuff

Interesting top 3, good to see the usual suspects not amongst them (as good as they are, there's plenty of other great Floyd albums). Set the Control for the Heart of the Sun is beautiful dark folk, and Interstellar Overdrive still gets me wild, as does Astronomy Domine. Favourite Syd song is Flaming for me, tho' Bike is bonkers fun. Echoes is great of course, lovely instrumental middle-section. One of these Days is spectacular.

Have fun at the gig! Nick Mason's dark ambient piece on Ummagumma inspired my own musik:



I wished he wrote more but he never got much of a look-in after that.

Superb band, i voted for DSOTM but I also have a soft spot for the Division Bell. I saw Waters at the Echo in the summer and it was a great gig with the usual high production standards, this time a giant battersea power station model stretching the length of the arena which was covered with screens allowing them to project various images onto it, the best bit was the whole arena singing along to 'comfortably numb' at the end.

Nice! A favourite memory of mine is us all singing Money at the top of our lungs at a tribute band gig (Echoes they're called...pretty good). Sadly never seen the real thing, Live 8 would've been the one but I stupidly missed it for some reason.

 

[Parker]

Led Zeppelin are crap. You can count the good songs they've created on one hand.

You must be from Stoke then because they definitely have more than 5 good songs.

 

[Old Blue 2]

aye, my bad! i got mixed up. You meant the Beatles. I would agree the Beatles are the most influential rock band in history. If we're trying to be objective, we could call Pink Floyd the most innovative.

I also agree, dh, that Floyd were incredibly innovative in what they did. As were 'Yes' before they appeared to disappear up their own backsides. But the Beatles were cracking everything apart before Floyd. Floyd were a continuation of what they initiated, and the Beatles/George Martin's studio wizardry was latched onto and copied/enhanced by those who followed.

 

[Old Blue 2]

You must be from Stoke then because they definitely have more than 5 good songs.

I think he is alluding to all the songs that were claimed as their own originals by Page & Plant when in fact they ripped them off from a multitude of artists. For example, Willie Dixon should not have had to initiate legal action to get royalties for song that they blatantly nicked from him and called them their own. Ther is a series of Youtube vids (3 or 4) which catalogue all the songs they claimed to compose, and show the original as well. Really staggering...

 

[dholliday]

Led Zeppelin are crap. You can count the good songs they've created on one hand.

You must be from Stoke then because they definitely have more than 5 good songs.

Led Zep III alone has at least 5 good songs on it.

But the Beatles were cracking everything apart before Floyd. Floyd were a continuation of what they initiated, and the Beatles/George Martin's studio wizardry were latched onto and copied/enhanced by those who followed.

I would disagree here. The Beatles did very little with electronic music equipment, nor had their song structures much ambition, and their lyrics were a little thin in meaning.

 

[dholliday]

As were 'Yes' before they appeared to disappear up their own backsides.

The Gates of Delirium is as epic as it gets in prog rock!

 

[davids]

Of the post Floyd stuff Radio Kaos works well.

 

[dholliday]

I think he is alluding to all the songs that were claimed as their own originals by Page & Plant when in fact they ripped them off from a multitude of artists. For example, Willie Dixon should not have had to initiate legal action to get royalties for song that they blatantly nicked from him and called them their own. Ther is a series of Youtube vids (3 or 4) which catalogue all the songs they claimed to compose, and show the original as well. Really staggering...

Sort of true. Page & Plant should've been more open about their source material, but I do enjoy their interpretations. Take Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You...that heavy-metal thrash at the end is totally Led Zep, giving the song far more male drama than the original female folk song ever had.

Here's the vid if anyone's interested:

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Always associated with wools when I was younger .

 

[chrismpw]

I grew up as a kid sharing a bedroom with my 2 older brothers. The Floyd album posters were our wallpaper: the burning man, the prism, the shaking hands. During the 70s I was too young to have any taste, but the music of the 80s was do mindnumbingly tedious for me I started investigating Pink Floyd just because I was familiar with them.

It wasn't until the millennium, when people were doing surveys of the best music of the century that I really sat down and thought about it. Generally I like folk, folk-rock, classical, opera etc but when it came to it I realised the ONLY music I could listen to whatever my mood, was Pink Floyd. Of that, 'wish you were here' is stand out .... Every single note and nuance is perfection.my album ofvthe millennium, with 'the final cut' a close second. Be and my brother - who weren't really close when we were young, spent a lot of time together as adults listening to music, drinking beer and solving the world's problems.

When my floyd-fan brother suddenly died 10 years ago of a heart attack, I spent the evening with the best part of a bottle of whisky and wish you were here belting out of the hi-fi. Shine on you crazy diamond always reminds me of him even now. He'd have loved that. Welling up remembering this ffs.

 

[dholliday]

I grew up as a kid sharing a bedroom with my 2 older brothers. The Floyd album posters were our wallpaper: the burning man, the prism, the shaking hands. During the 70s I was too young to have any taste, but the music of the 80s was do mindnumbingly tedious for me I started investigating Pink Floyd just because I was familiar with them.

It wasn't until the millennium, when people were doing surveys of the best music of the century that I really sat down and thought about it. Generally I like folk, folk-rock, classical, opera etc but when it came to it I realised the ONLY music I could listen to whatever my mood, was Pink Floyd. Of that, 'wish you were here' is stand out .... Every single note and nuance is perfection.my album ofvthe millennium, with 'the final cut' a close second. Be and my brother - who weren't really close when we were young, spent a lot of time together as adults listening to music, drinking beer and solving the world's problems.

When my floyd-fan brother suddenly died 10 years ago of a heart attack, I spent the evening with the best part of a bottle of whisky and wish you were here belting out of the hi-fi. Shine on you crazy diamond always reminds me of him even now. He'd have loved that. Welling up remembering this ffs.

lovely post, mate

 

[Parker]

Sort of true. Page & Plant should've been more open about their source material, but I do enjoy their interpretations. Take Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You...that heavy-metal thrash at the end is totally Led Zep, giving the song far more male drama than the original female folk song ever had.

Here's the vid if anyone's interested:

Also, everyone mentions Page and Plant, and rightly so, but they had the greatest rhythm section of all time in the engine room. Jones and especially Bonham were one of a kind. For example, in "When the levee breaks" his bass drum isn't even mic'ed up. He just hits that hard and I'm a sucker for that.

If I am honest regarding the Beatles, I always found them a bit boring and the clips of them performing on TV shows all wearing matching suits and McCartneys tiny bass always put me off.

 

[dholliday]

If I am honest regarding the Beatles, I always found them a bit boring and the clips of them performing on TV shows all wearing matching suits and McCartneys tiny bass always put me off.

I've tried with the Beatles, but none of it really clicks. Strawberry Fields is a nice lush song, A Day in the Life is interesting, Number 9 is far out...I think that's my limit, the rest is pretty meh.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Also, everyone mentions Page and Plant, and rightly so, but they had the greatest rhythm section of all time in the engine room. Jones and especially Bonham were one of a kind. For example, in "When the levee breaks" his bass drum isn't even mic'ed up. He just hits that hard and I'm a sucker for that.

If I am honest regarding the Beatles, I always found them a bit boring and the clips of them performing on TV shows all wearing matching suits and McCartneys tiny bass always put me off.

When the levee breaks was one of their nicked songs, about an actual event. Original is from around 1920.

LZ had the greatest rhythm section of all time? Tell that to Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce, for starters! And The Stones rhythm section of Watts & Wyman were far more 'in the pocket' than Bonham/Jones...

If you found/find the Beatles a bit boring, then that is fine - that's your opinion and not incorrect in your view. But boring they ain't, if you examine their composing and performaing abilities. Go listen to 'And your bird can sing' from 1966 and take in the twin guitar playing on that track. Light years ahead of anything that Wishbone Ash or the Allman Brothers Band did, ever.

TV shows of the 1960s HAD to be mimed, so the Beatles had to fall in line with laid-down TV industry rules. The suits were a dictat from Epstein in order to position them so that music industry moguls in London (who ruled everything at the time) didn't see tham as some kind of 'unwashed'.

McCartney's lefty Hofner bass was all that he could get hold of prior to them hitting the big time. He moved on to Rickenbackers in the mid-1960s.