Pink Floyd

[SerenityNigh]

Objectively, depending what web site you visit, granted, Floyd are miles behind Zep, Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Garth Brookes, The Eagles, and just about level with AC/DC, on global sales.

Dark Side is generally seen as one of the biggest selling albums in history, no problem, its epic. But they have sold jack, (in relation to being the greatest rock band ever), since The Wall.

As for influence. Impossible to quantify. Made bass guitar sexy maybe.

*Just realized you already said what I've just written

Floyd have only sold 3 million units more than AC/DC, which is a fabulous band but probably too one-dimensional to take the moniker "best of all time"

Floyd have sold about 10 million more than Springsteen, and I'll put him up there against Floyd for influence and ambition

 

[roydo]

I'm showing Elvis, Garth Brooks, Led Zeppelin, Eagles, Billy Joel, and Elton John also ahead of Floyd in record sales. Maybe my info is wrong.

As far as ambition is concerned? Come on brother, you can discount Zeppelin, Stones, and U2 if you won't but Floyd don't have more ambition than Beatles, Bowie, and Radiohead.

Probably got the same result as me.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Probably got the same result as me.

I rarely look past the first offering google presents

 

[SerenityNigh]

Sake, I may never quote record sales again if Def Leppard have sold more than Queen and almost as much as Bob Dylan

Ar ya geddin it?

 

[roydo]

Sake, I may never quote record sales again if Def Leppard have sold more than Queen and almost as much as Bob Dylan

Ar ya geddin it?

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Def Leppard had one or two absolute monster sales, bit like AC/DC. And Queen disappeared from sight for ages, till Band Aid. They were largely a singles band. I will bet their biggest selling album is Greatest Hits, not a proper one.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Def Leppard had one or two absolute monster sales, bit like AC/DC. And Queen disappeared from sight for ages, till Band Aid. They were largely a singles band. I will bet their biggest selling album is Greatest Hits, not a proper one.

yeah, I loved Def Leppard when I was a kid, but I wouldn't really consider them great or influential. I'll still listen to a little GNR or Metallica, but each of these had some merit to their music I can't attribute to Def Leppard.

 

[dholliday]

Objectively, depending what web site you visit, granted, Floyd are miles behind Zep, Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Garth Brookes, The Eagles, and just about level with AC/DC, on global sales.

Dark Side is generally seen as one of the biggest selling albums in history, no problem, its epic. But they have sold jack, (in relation to being the greatest rock band ever), since The Wall.

As for influence. Impossible to quantify. Made bass guitar sexy maybe.

I guess it depends where you get your figures from. Let's just call all of them sales behemoths.

But when you say Floyd haven't sold much since The Wall, you don't mean time-wise...their albums sales are constantly high. I guess you mean the albums post-Wall haven't sold much, and arguably The Wall was the last Pink Floyd album proper.

As far as ambition is concerned? Come on brother, you can discount Zeppelin, Stones, and U2 if you won't want but Floyd don't have more ambition than Beatles, Bowie, and Radiohead.

I granted Bowie in my earlier post, he even did a Drum-n-Bass album...but Radiohead? Don't make us laugh. I really like them, they're maybe in my top 10 favourite musicians, I could easily name 20 songs as favourites...but in comparison to Floyd they're about as ambitious as Status Quo:

- no songs longer than 6 minutes and no genuinely-proggy structures, with one famous exception: Paranoid Android.
- very little avant-garde experimentation when compared with the Floyd discography.
- very few instrumentals.
- only one main singer, who after a while does sound a bit samey, as good as he obviously is.
- some albums sound alike to each other, they have had the same sound since In Rainbows: that over-reverberated sheen. It's very lush, but not ambitious. Jonny Greenwood alone is more ambitious than his band.

 

[roydo]

yeah, I loved Def Leppard when I was a kid, but I wouldn't really consider them great or influential. I'll still listen to a little GNR or Metallica, but each of these had some merit to their music I can't attribute to Def Leppard.

Saw them way before they were big. Their first headliner tour in probably 1980, then a year or so later when the theatre was only half full.

Then they got the producer that AC/DC sacked........BOOM.

 

[roydo]

Objectively the Floyd are miles more influential than any band on that list bar the Beatles. Objectively the Floyd are the 3rd-biggest selling music act ever, behind only Michael Jackson & again the Beatles.

Subjectively, on strength & sheer variation of their large discography - which far outweighs the ambition shown by all them acts on your list put together - they are the greatest rock band ever.

But when you say Floyd haven't sold much since The Wall, you don't mean time-wise...their albums sales are constantly high. I guess you mean the albums post-Wall haven't sold much, and arguably The Wall was the last Pink Floyd album proper.

I am saying you are talking tripe mate.

They may well be your favourite band, fine. But the greatest ever? Barely a rock band.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I guess it depends where you get your figures from. Let's just call all of them sales behemoths.

But when you say Floyd haven't sold much since The Wall, you don't mean time-wise...their albums sales are constantly high. I guess you mean the albums post-Wall haven't sold much, and arguably The Wall was the last Pink Floyd album proper.





I granted Bowie in my earlier post, he even did a Drum-n-Bass album...but Radiohead? Don't make us laugh. I really like them, they're maybe in my top 10 favourite musicians, I could easily name 20 songs as favourites...but in comparison to Floyd they're about as ambitious as Status Quo:

- no songs longer than 6 minutes and no genuinely-proggy structures, with one famous exception: Paranoid Android.
- very little avant-garde experimentation when compared with the Floyd discography.
- very few instrumentals.
- only one main singer, who after a while does sound a bit samey, as good as he obviously is.
- some albums sound alike to each other, they have had the same sound since In Rainbows: that over-reverberated sheen. It's very lush, but not ambitious. Jonny Greenwood alone is more ambitious than his band.

I can totally understand not liking Radiohead but have you even listened to them? They’re basically digital prog, and they’ve got two albums (or one if that’s how you count them) that are basically instrumental albums.

Besides the fact that prog is dead, music outside the Rhine valley moved on decades ago, it’s hard to imagine them as anything other than the modern extension of British acts like Bowie or Floyd.

 

[dholliday]

But the greatest ever? Barely a rock band.

wtf?

I can totally understand not liking Radiohead but have you even listened to them?

wtf?

 

[roydo]

wtf?



wtf?

What? You said they are the greatest rock band ever. They are not. They are not even a rock band.

 

[Goat]

Pulp's Different Class is 1995 - need to tag your dodgy mp3 folders more carefully

I didnt name them.

 

[daza_1973]

I didnt name them.

Sorry its my OCD kicking in

 

[SerenityNigh]

What? You said they are the greatest rock band ever. They are not. They are not even a rock band.

I’m ok calling them a rock band, but they’re so far from the norm it’s hard to say they’re the best. Oasis, who had very little “ambition” are closer to the definition of best rock band than Floyd.