Current Affairs Phil the Greek

[Wizard]

Your Grandad wasn't married to the head of state though (well I assume not anyway...) nor was he a public figure.

Even with everything you have said there it doesn't excuse the classism.

I dunno, maybe I don't feel the same because my grandparents were mixed (as in one white, one black) so it would have been quite the scandal back then so the lazy/old school racism was never present in my past so it properly irks me when people like Prince Phillip say what they do.

It does worry me that I have seen so many people today saying that he was great because he "spoke his mind". Maybe he shouldn't have so often.

I completely agree on the classism point, he was in a different position to my grandad who was a working class man who never had anything. He didn't have to hold his tongue because I guess most people around him at the time were the same. Prince Philip was different, you are right.

You are also completely correct in that I shouldn't try and justify either situation as "that's the way it was". The only way we grow out of this and learn is by stopping making excuses for what went before.

On the final point I guess I feel like my grandad wasn't speaking his mind when he said those things later in life. It was lazy old school racism and when we corrected him he realised. Whereas Prince Philip probably was speaking his mind. And that is not something to laud

 

[dannyboy]

So weird. Already dreading Liz popping her clogs. As a primary school teacher, I'm worried that every child in the country will have to perform some choreographed nonsense to pay homage. At least when she goes we'll get a day off work though?

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Goat]

Not sure if already posted, but Fox news know whos to blame.

 

[hirons11]

Some of the responses on social media and on here are disgusting. It's the same [Poor language removed] all the time.

Understand that some don't like the Royal family and that understandable but why do they resort to hate. This word is screwed. Megan last week, Who the hate figure next week? I can't keep up.

I’m fairly certain it will be one of Gylfi, Tom or Gomes.

 

[sbbefc]

Never thought the obsessive media coverage this racist old bloke is getting would top that the RS usually gets. But here we are.

 

[edge]

Renowned nazi-hunter Prince Phillip attends Nazi funeral in 1937.

Remarkable to think that 2 years later he'd be at the centre of a huge fightback against Herr Hitler.

It was his older sisters Funeral in Frankfurt. She was married to a German prince and had died (while pregnant) with two of her children in a plane crash, at that time in Germany the Nazi party was at its height and any large public events would have had some Nazis present.
I would look elsewhere for supporters of the Nazi party in the royal family, he had a lot of faults but being a Nazi sympathizer I don't think is a fair reflection of the man

 

[Toffee in Jandals]

Renowned nazi-hunter Prince Phillip attends Nazi funeral in 1937.

Remarkable to think that 2 years later he'd be at the centre of a huge fightback against Herr Hitler.

He was then a sixteen year old kid, and it was his sister’s funeral. Give it a rest Dave, you angry little man. There’s a few things you can critique Phillip for, but playing the Nazi sympathiser card just doesn’t have any legitimate grounding in reality.

 

[davids]

Fitting that this morning the BBC news sports slot included a clip of his coach riding where he is shouting " come on you stupid horse" while flicking his whip at the poor unfortunate creature.

 

[PhilM]

It was his older sisters Funeral in Frankfurt. She was married to a German prince and had died (while pregnant) with two of her children in a plane crash, at that time in Germany the Nazi party was at its height and any large public events would have had some Nazis present.
I would look elsewhere for supporters of the Nazi party in the royal family, he had a lot of faults but being a Nazi sympathizer I don't think is a fair reflection of the man

Add to that, his three surviving sisters weren't invited to his wedding in '47 because of their links to Germany and specifically the Nazi party.

So weird. Already dreading Liz popping her clogs. As a primary school teacher, I'm worried that every child in the country will have to perform some choreographed nonsense to pay homage. At least when she goes we'll get a day off work though?

With the Queen, it would at least be the Head of State / Sovereign passing rather than her husband.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

The irregulars is a good watch and new Kong movie is fun. Missing BBC 4 Friday music was minimised...

 

[Jebus_lives]

The irregulars is a good watch and new Kong movie is fun. Missing BBC 4 Friday music was minimised...

That the Sherlock Holmes thing?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sad that so many have gathered, during Covid which specifically bans ALL mass gatherings, to hold a mass "vigil" for the death of Phil and the met police have done nothing. Priti Patel has been silent about the gathered crowds and @ForeverBlue92 has not called for tear gas...

 

[davek]

It was his older sisters Funeral in Frankfurt. She was married to a German prince and had died (while pregnant) with two of her children in a plane crash, at that time in Germany the Nazi party was at its height and any large public events would have had some Nazis present.
I would look elsewhere for supporters of the Nazi party in the royal family, he had a lot of faults but being a Nazi sympathizer I don't think is a fair reflection of the man

He was then a sixteen year old kid, and it was his sister’s funeral. Give it a rest Dave, you angry little man. There’s a few things you can critique Phillip for, but playing the Nazi sympathiser card just doesn’t have any legitimate grounding in reality.

Yeah. I realise you're both right. It was his sisters funeral. And yes, there are plenty of other things to attack him on than that.

 

[Moomin]

Next weekends games will be postponed in respect for the funeral.