Phil Jagielka

[Walken]

and besic coming in seems to have stabilised things and besic is v similar to mccarthy....

mate?

 

[MACCA75]

he's a full international and club captain, those who are portraying him as underrated are probably just desperate to see themselves as some sort of footballing deep thinkers

Hardly. If you speak to fans of other clubs, they barely rate him at all. They seem to have the idea he's been poor for England, which isn't true either.

 

[RFUS]

and besic coming in seems to have stabilised things and besic is v similar to mccarthy....

Walken beat you to it lad. But yeah, I think it's no coincidence.

 

[Brendan Janus]

17 with Jagielka

18 without Jagielka

(and that's off playing one more match without Jagielka)

Good job he is back then

 

[neil999]

mate?

sorry mr

 

[davek]

The fact we conceded 4 at home to Stoke and 3 at home to Leicester with a defensive shape that was all over the place, backs me up though

...and conceding 3 against League 1 Barnsley demonstrates good shape?

 

[neil999]

I'd say that game was fading from us before the injury, but its interesting that our resolve returned defensively with Besic's inclusion, probably the player with most similarities to mccarthy

i agree with this intelligent statement

 

[MikeH72]

...and conceding 3 against League 1 Barnsley demonstrates good shape?

We also had a 50% fit Oviedo and a 20 year old League 1 right back playing in our defence in that game though didn't we?

 

[davek]

We also had a 50% fit Oviedo and a 20 year old League 1 right back playing in our defence in that game though didn't we?

Ok, we got beat 3-0 at home to United. Captain Marvel was present 'organising' the defence that day too.

The point cant be gainsaid: we're not a fortress with or without Jagielka in the team.

 

[strummer]

he's a full international and club captain, those who are portraying him as underrated are probably just desperate to see themselves as some sort of footballing deep thinkers

Id say he's more unappreciated than underated.by our fans anyway.

 

[Goat]

David abusing our captain again I see?

Same old, just a different day.

 

[davek]

David abusing our captain again I see?

Same old, just a different day.

He's Mr Mediocrity. You'll know how much once we get a real captain in.

 

[bicycleheader]

Happy to have him back, but christ that first goal is almost like a Jags speciality....

we had that under control until decides to do a Jags

 

[LinekersLegs]

Unfortunately after so long out was to be expected he'd misjudge something, especially with three games in rapid succession.

Heartbreaking though as really got their tails up.

 

[germanblue]

Apart from their first goal, he was superb.
Prevented a certain goal with his full body block.