Current Affairs Paul Nuttall...Bootle boy made good..or a bad example of a Scouser ??

[roydo]

Lot of places like that Roydo, one of the worst i have been was in windermere of all places, got drinking with some fella was a brother to those flutchers who played for luton or said he was ,ended up on some estate that looked like the worst parts of norris green the prople were dead nice but bloody odd strange place that.

Absolutely spot on.

When I started my delivery job, I was astonished at the amount of crappy areas in the town I have lived in for 40 years, on and off. The builders/planners/developers, hide the "affordable" and social housing away from the main drags, so unless you are going there, you never know it exists.

 

[tsubaki]

Lot of places like that Roydo, one of the worst i have been was in windermere of all places, got drinking with some fella was a brother to those flutchers who played for luton or said he was ,ended up on some estate that looked like the worst parts of norris green the prople were dead nice but bloody odd strange place that.

the Futchers? Small world, I went to school with one of their nieces.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Or even Paul........

I like Phil. It has a nice ring to it.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I fail to see why UKIP are given so much airtime by the media.

They have zero MP's, what are they for? I'm no eco-warrior, but the Greens get hardly any airtime and have actual MP's.

Why the media obsession with UKIP? They have nothing.

The simple answer to that Groucho is that they are considered controversial and therefore newsworthy.

Also, despite the fact that they only have one MP, at the last election they were actually the 3rd most popular party pulling in nearly 4m votes, 13% of the electorate. SNP, by comparison won 56 seats from less than 1.5m votes. The point I'm making is that it won't take much of a swing from Labour to move a lot of those second places to wins. With Labour in it's current state, you wouldn't bet against that happening if an early election was enforced by any indecision over Brexit.

If Brexit goes through relatively smoothly, I can see UKIP dying out over time as it will be left with just the diehard right wingers. But, at the moment, don't under estimate them is my advice. FWIW

 

[Connor]

Two resignations down with more expected. Adios you Bad Bootle UKIP Meff.

 

[tsubaki]

The simple answer to that Groucho is that they are considered controversial and therefore newsworthy.

Also, despite the fact that they only have one MP, at the last election they were actually the 3rd most popular party pulling in nearly 4m votes, 13% of the electorate. SNP, by comparison won 56 seats from less than 1.5m votes. The point I'm making is that it won't take much of a swing from Labour to move a lot of those second places to wins. With Labour in it's current state, you wouldn't bet against that happening if an early election was enforced by any indecision over Brexit.

If Brexit goes through relatively smoothly, I can see UKIP dying out over time as it will be left with just the diehard right wingers. But, at the moment, don't under estimate them is my advice. FWIW

4m votes is more because they stand almost everywhere - thanks to the Banks money and some shameless fleecing of the EU Parliamentary allowances - and get an excess of positive media exposure (under Farage they were almost guaranteed support from the S*n, the Mail, the Express and elements in the Telegraph and the Times, and still get good spin when up against Corbyn) than because they actually are the third biggest party.

Or to put it another way, if you look at party membership on the mainland they are actually the sixth biggest party behind Labour, the Tories, the Lib Dems, the SNP, and the Greens.

 

[ToffeeTim]

4m votes is more because they stand almost everywhere - thanks to the Banks money and some shameless fleecing of the EU Parliamentary allowances - and get an excess of positive media exposure (under Farage they were almost guaranteed support from the S*n, the Mail, the Express and elements in the Telegraph and the Times, and still get good spin when up against Corbyn) than because they actually are the third biggest party.

Or to put it another way, if you look at party membership on the mainland they are actually the sixth biggest party behind Labour, the Tories, the Lib Dems, the SNP, and the Greens.

They came 3rd in popular vote. Bells they may be but that's why they get air time. Lib dems are no more relevant tbh.

Anyways nuttall will lose this by a whisker so that will pipe him right down

 

[tsubaki]

They came 3rd in popular vote. Bells they may be but that's why they get air time. Lib dems are no more relevant tbh.

Anyways nuttall will lose this by a whisker so that will pipe him right down

They were getting that airtime long before that election, and the size of financial support that they have enjoyed can be seen by them standing 428 candidates at the 2001 General Election (for 1.5% of the vote), 496 in 2005 (2.2%) and 558 in 2010 (3%). They have had backing the likes of which few parties, certainly few "insurgent" parties, have ever had - especially given such a small membership base, and given such a record of repeated electoral failure.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Fruit and Nuttall is now claiming he just gave a 3 hour statement to Police on Hillsborough. Someone needs to belt this bad Kopite melt to kingdom come for the whoppers he keeps coming out with.

 

[edge]

They came 3rd in popular vote. Bells they may be but that's why they get air time. Lib dems are no more relevant tbh.

Anyways nuttall will lose this by a whisker so that will pipe him right down

there was a thing on tv this morning asking people in Stoke about the election, most were saying they were labour and voting that way, but due to the work on the ground by UKIP they wouldn't be surprised if they won it.
cant call it either way myself after the last few elections who really does know, if he spins it its the establishment out to get him, might still have a chance as the labour candidate looks a bit weak, why haven't they put somebody strong up to slam UKIP ?

 

[Barnfred 55]

4m votes is more because they stand almost everywhere - thanks to the Banks money and some shameless fleecing of the EU Parliamentary allowances - and get an excess of positive media exposure (under Farage they were almost guaranteed support from the S*n, the Mail, the Express and elements in the Telegraph and the Times, and still get good spin when up against Corbyn) than because they actually are the third biggest party.

Or to put it another way, if you look at party membership on the mainland they are actually the sixth biggest party behind Labour, the Tories, the Lib Dems, the SNP, and the Greens.

Wasn't referencing size of parties mate. Just stating that, rightly or wrongly, they pulled the 3rd most votes at the last election, and by quite some margin too. That's one of the reasons they get so much press coverage. That, and the fact that they are controversial which always helps sell newspapers.

 

[Number_25]

Uh oh.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Uh oh.

What's up ?

 

[Harryflashman]

Fruit and Nuttall is now claiming he just gave a 3 hour statement to Police on Hillsborough. Someone needs to belt this bad Kopite melt to kingdom come for the whoppers he keeps coming out with.

Not many times you can genuinely say it but shame on him .

Either he was there and has over exaggerated it and milked his situation whilst failing to defend those in a similar situation and grieving families for fear of offending money men and media in which case he's scum.

Or he wasn't there and used it to shamelessly exploit and profit from a tragedy and he's worse than scum .

So there you go .

 

[Connor]