Park End annexe - 'not going to happen now'

[Silas]

Has Elstone really been "responsible" for the failings at Everton Football Club? Is that not just the same as assigning blame solely to Bill Kenwright rather than the board?

 

[nsno-chris]

A lot of willy waving going on in here- 'Outstanding "Dave" ' Makes me cringe....

Point scoring and one upmanship over fellow Evertonians is in my opinion unecessary and cheap.

Why? Because I agree with his post and it is a response I would have written.

 

[nsno-chris]

Has Elstone really been "responsible" for the failings at Everton Football Club? Is that not just the same as assigning blame solely to Bill Kenwright rather than the board?

And of course he has Silas; putting everything on to BK shows how narrow minded some people are and unable to understand the workings of a business.

The CEO of any business is responsible for the day to day running of the business, he has overall responsibility of the business, thats why he his employed

 

[Brownie]

Elstone got promoted apparently: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...on-sale-is-genuine-says-chairman-6259335.html

I mean what is that, really. You can probably be chairman as well if you want dave.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

He's a absolute clown. How can this joke be left to run our club, day after day. no wonder were in so much shit.

 

[Neiler]

yes, i have:
- The Finch Farm lease
- KitBag; outsourced all our commercial activities for £2.5million pound a year when football is booming
- The subject we are discussing is another failure.

Not to mention his participation in DK. The man is a CEO, he has responsibilities to drive the business forward, he clearly isn't doing that, i really don't know why you can't see it

To be honest i think your time lines are mixed up here, by all means critique but be factual, i can come up with more accurate smoking guns then these to be honest.

Havent commercial revenues increased during his time as CEO.

As far as i know their is no offical line on the annexe not being built, we have confirmation on a delay.

As for DK, it was a great oppurtunity missed for the club to grow organic revenue, that has consigned it to its current malaise for possibly a decade without a change of ownership or stimulas.

You should look around mate, i wouldnt say football is booming to be honest.

To be honest im not a fan of the annexe either way, so over all im not pushed if its built or not, its restrictive and in no way can i see it provideing the projected profits (ill give you a hand here).

 

[Bigmaclad]

Have we started building it yet? Come on lads, get the cement mixers out!

 

[peteblue]

Can't wait till we can lord it over the RS because we've got an annexe, they'll be envious as sh.it............

 

[nsno-chris]

To be honest i think your time lines are mixed up here, by all means critique but be factual, i can come up with more accurate smoking guns then these to be honest.

Please, be my guest?

Havent commercial revenues increased during his time as CEO.

The income has certainly increased, thats nothing to do with our commercial side of things. High placed finishes with the record Sky deal will see to that. Oh and not forgetting the deal of the century for our commercial income..... the KitBag deal, wooohoo £2.5mill for a Premiere League Club, i'm sure, even with overheads, a bit of forward thinking (i.e. expanding into foreign markets) we could easily double that figure, but it seems like to much hard work so lets just out source it.

Anyway, our glorious CEO keeps banging on about every 85p in a pound goes towards Finch Farm so we have 15p for everything else. How much would we have for everything else if he wouldnt have made that stupid decision to spend so much money leasing it back???

As far as i know their is no offical line on the annexe not being built, we have confirmation on a delay.

No official line is exactly my point, lack of communication. I have been informed that the planning application has been pulled. I'm waiting to get 100% confirmation on this.

As for DK, it was a great oppurtunity missed for the club to grow organic revenue, that has consigned it to its current malaise for possibly a decade without a change of ownership or stimulas.

The club, with Elstone in an active senior member role, pushed ahead and wasted millions of pounds of the clubs trying to push through a project that was doomed from the start. Basic business errors; like i said, if this where a FTSE company he would have been out the door [/QUOTE]

You should look around mate, i wouldnt say football is booming to be honest.

I am mate, and it is. The Sky deal is huge and there is now talk of the Arabs wanting to buy the rights to the EPL when the sky deal runs out, no doubt this will again increase the amount of money clubs will get.

We are in an economic crisis, yes, however this is not affecting the amount of money circulating in football.

To be honest im not a fan of the annexe either way, so over all im not pushed if its built or not, its restrictive and in no way can i see it provideing the projected profits (ill give you a hand here).

I don't think anyone can see the benefit, apart from Kitbag and Sodhexo who will see the profits; yet our CEO seems to think its a good idea. I honestly don't see how Everton are going to make money from this, it seems so pointless.

 

[davek]

Please, be my guest?

The income has certainly increased, thats nothing to do with our commercial side of things. High placed finishes with the record Sky deal will see to that. Oh and not forgetting the deal of the century for our commercial income..... the KitBag deal, wooohoo £2.5mill for a Premiere League Club, i'm sure, even with overheads, a bit of forward thinking (i.e. expanding into foreign markets) we could easily double that figure, but it seems like to much hard work so lets just out source it.

Anyway, our glorious CEO keeps banging on about every 85p in a pound goes towards Finch Farm so we have 15p for everything else. How much would we have for everything else if he wouldnt have made that stupid decision to spend so much money leasing it back???

No official line is exactly my point, lack of communication. I have been informed that the planning application has been pulled. I'm waiting to get 100% confirmation on this.

The club, with Elstone in an active senior member role, pushed ahead and wasted millions of pounds of the clubs trying to push through a project that was doomed from the start. Basic business errors; like i said, if this where a FTSE company he would have been out the door

I am mate, and it is. The Sky deal is huge and there is now talk of the Arabs wanting to buy the rights to the EPL when the sky deal runs out, no doubt this will again increase the amount of money clubs will get.

We are in an economic crisis, yes, however this is not affecting the amount of money circulating in football.

I don't think anyone can see the benefit, apart from Kitbag and Sodhexo who will see the profits; yet our CEO seems to think its a good idea. I honestly don't see how Everton are going to make money from this, it seems so pointless.

Neiler was/is one half of the famous GOT Financial Review Team. They consistently made the case that there'd be an increase in the net spending of David Moyes in all of the past 6 transfer windows; that the debt situation at the club was under control; that bridging loans secured against two year advance tv revenues is good business practice; and that Aston Villa are in free-fall and soon to be relegated.

Just some helpful background information.

 

[Cena]

Neiler was/is one half of the famous GOT Financial Review Team. They consistently made the case that there'd be an increase in the net spending of David Moyes in all of the past 6 transfer windows; that the debt situation at the club was under control; that bridging loans secured against two year advance tv revenues is good business practice; and that Aston Villa are in free-fall and soon to be relegated.

Just some helpful background information.

I wish we had Villa's problems, no where near as bad as ours

 

[davek]

I wish we had Villa's problems, no where near as bad as ours

Good job Damon's still in gaol!!!

 

[Goat]

Good job Damon's still in gaol!!!

Actually hes not.

Hes just gone.

 

[davek]

Actually hes not.

Hes just gone.

Another one bites the dust. Bill's supporters - they all turn insane in the end.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Another one bites the dust. Bill's supporters - they all turn insane in the end.

What do you mean "in the end".

damon never had any sense in the first place.