Olympics

[davek]

Funnily enough I find Farah and Radcliffe more repugnant because they didn't even bother to hide it.

Farah: impossible improvement, trained in countries with the lowest doping test compliance levels, worked out of Nike Oregon.

Radcliffe: impossible levels of improvement, caught bang to rights, had Lord Coe and the IAAF personally intervene on very dodgy unprecedented grounds, made drugs czar.

I remember Steve Cram was on Newsnight nearly screaming at the interviewer for even daring to link Radcliffe with being a doper.

If a foreigner had done what she'd done he and the other BBC sports mafia would have been demanding a life time ban.

...and of course she created her own biggest form of protection: a campaigner against doping in athletics who stated that if she was ever questioned on doping herself it would be because she'd been targeted by dark forces in athletics looking to undermine her crusade and promote PEDS.

 

[orly]

If the Italian 100m winner wasn’t doping I will be absolutely amazed. Only broke the 10 second barrier this year, just left his nutritionist who is heavily linked to doping. And has now said he won’t compete for the rest of the year. Wonder why.

As I’ve said before though, I reckon most of them are at it. As they have been for all the other Olympics. Just a question of who gets caught. I’ve come to terms with that and so just enjoy watching it.

Feel really sorry for the ones that are clean, but I doubt there are many of them about.

Definitely. And there are some competitions like the strongman comps where it is completely accepted that everyone takes something of some kind.

Athletics is weird because it pretends not to. You only have to see how many articles there are on the Kopites drug cycling that go totally unchallenged to know it's no contest on that one too.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I remember Steve Cram was on Newsnight nearly screaming at the interviewer for even daring to link Radcliffe with being a doper.

If a foreigner had done what she'd done he and the other BBC sports mafia would have been demanding a life time ban.

...and of course she created her own biggest form of protection: a campaigner against doping in athletics who stated that if she was ever questioned on doping herself it would be because she'd been targeted by dark forces in athletics looking to undermine her crusade and promote PEDS.

Let’s not forget, Radcliffe also did a jobbie, into a gutter, in public, on live tele.

 

[Wizard]

Definitely. And there are some competitions like the strongman comps where it is completely accepted that everyone takes something of some kind.

Athletics is weird because it pretends not to. You only have to see how many articles there are on the Kopites drug cycling that go totally unchallenged to know it's no contest on that one too.

The big issue, which has always been the case, is that the dopers are ahead of the people trying to catch them. Someone gets caught, the dopers up their game to find other ways to stay ahead of them. There’s way more money in doping than there is for the people trying to stop it.

And no one really wants to push the issue too hard as then the sport completely crumbles. I reckon there is way more of it going on in football but it is in everyone’s interest to turn a blind eye.

Only exceptions are when it’s someone unfashionable doing it or they are so clearly taking the piss (Armstrong) then the authorities feel like they can/have to act.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Let’s not forget, Radcliffe also did a jobbie, into a gutter, in public, on live tele.

Yup she chose that moment to let go the big one.

 

[orly]

The big issue, which has always been the case, is that the dopers are ahead of the people trying to catch them. Someone gets caught, the dopers up their game to find other ways to stay ahead of them. There’s way more money in doping than there is for the people trying to stop it.

And no one really wants to push the issue too hard as then the sport completely crumbles. I reckon there is way more of it going on in football but it is in everyone’s interest to turn a blind eye.

Only exceptions are when it’s someone unfashionable doing it or they are so clearly taking the piss (Armstrong) then the authorities feel like they can/have to act.

Agree with all of this. Armstrong's key error was that he was starting to look at political office, so the FBI moved against him. It's well documented that Clinton stepped in to block proceedings against him (which Obama then got going again).

 

[john jako]

Let’s not forget, Radcliffe also did a jobbie, into a gutter, in public, on live tele.

Doing it in the gutter is clever though. Atleast she’s not an animal who done it on a set of double yellows.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Doing it in the gutter is clever though. Atleast she’s not an animal who done it on a set of double yellows.

My brother once got caught urinating in public on a Saturday night. He accidentally butt dialled me and I woke up to an endless answerphone message where he actually said to the policeman several times ‘you got nowt better to do like’ Awful stuff

 

[gonetomorrow]

Doing it in the gutter is clever though. Atleast she’s not an animal who done it on a set of double yellows.

There was definitely something a bit fishy about it though.

 

[john jako]

My brother once got caught urinating in public on a Saturday night. He accidentally butt dialled me and I woke up to an endless answerphone message where he actually said to the policeman several times ‘you got nowt better to do like’ Awful stuff

Sounds like @Frang

 

[atypicalusername]

CJ Ujah for team GB suspended after doping violation. I hope the B sample comes back clean and the team don't lose silver

 

[Black Belt Jones]

The big issue, which has always been the case, is that the dopers are ahead of the people trying to catch them. Someone gets caught, the dopers up their game to find other ways to stay ahead of them. There’s way more money in doping than there is for the people trying to stop it.

And no one really wants to push the issue too hard as then the sport completely crumbles. I reckon there is way more of it going on in football but it is in everyone’s interest to turn a blind eye.

Only exceptions are when it’s someone unfashionable doing it or they are so clearly taking the piss (Armstrong) then the authorities feel like they can/have to act.

A single footballer could bankrupt Wada, or whatever the footballing doping control equivalent is. Tyson Fury threatened to do similar to the boxing board of control, successfully getting his nandrolone bust kicked into the weeds.
Even athletics, the governing board was bankrupted in the 90s fighting Diane Modahl over a (genuinely) dodgy testosterone AAF. She also went bankrupt fighting it, but a prem footballer wouldn't have that xoncern.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

Good breakdown on the bbc site of funding per medal.

Tokyo Olympics: A look at how Team GB fared sport-by-sport compared to their funding.

How Great Britain fared sport-by-sport at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games relative to their funding.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sport / funding / # medals / cost per medal

Skateboarding £197,725 1 £197,725
Weightlifting £238,900 1 £238,900
Boxing £12,084,436 6 £2,014,073
Cycling £24,559,306 12 £2,046,609
Swimming £18,731,645 8 £2,341,456
Triathlon £7,049,372 3 £2,349,791
Diving £7,223,280 3 £2,407,760
Equestrian £12,541,195 5 £2,508,239
Taekwondo £8,223,805 3 £2,741,268
Modern pentathlon £5,498,321 2 £2,749,161
Athletics £23,007,531 6 £3,834,589
Sailing £22,249,000 5 £4,449,800
Gymnastics £13,408,688 3 £4,469,563
Shooting £6,008,790 1 £6,008,790
Judo £6,564,334 1 £6,564,334
Canoeing £16,344,693 2 £8,172,347
Rowing £24,655,408 2 £12,327,704
Hockey £12,905,612 1 £12,905,612

Some highs and lows there and no mistake - LOL at 6 mill for shooting.

Athletics at 23 million seems kinda stingy given it's the centrepiece of the games? Spending more on rowing than athletics wouldn't be right if we were dominating, it's for sure not right when we're getting walloped left right and centre.

Bread and Circuses innit...

 

[Jeff Jones]

Has anyone got a figure on how the GB medals were won by each of the home countries. I ask this because a commentator here
doesn't think it's fair that GB has four teams and Australia probably finished on top on a per capita medal list.

I think New Zealand and the Netherlands would have done OK if you count it that way.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

CJ Ujah for team GB suspended after doping violation. I hope the B sample comes back clean and the team don't lose silver

A slight chance that this might be anything other than bang to rights, open and shut, is that his sample had two drugs in it that do the same thing (sarm agents). That's quite unusual afaik so might mean something else is afoot.

But probably not in all likelihood.