Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[Jamiednm]

Are we able to change our votes? I accidentally clicked on that joker Emery, when I meant to throw my full weight behind Ronnie.

 

[paul11]

Was he brought in by Koeman then mate?

Yes Koeman took him to Southampton and is a very highly rated coach

 

[Goat]

Was he brought in by Koeman then mate?

He was appointed the same time as Koeman, just like Sammy Lee, on reflection im not sure, I did think he was already there, but the link is hes Englands coach, so I assumed he was a Les Reed appointment.

 

[Connor]

Yes Koeman took him to Southampton and is a very highly rated coach

Interesting that mate, didn't know he come in with Koeman. Like Goat, thought he was a Reid/Reed appointment a la Sammy Lee.

I know he's meant to be highly rated, my brothers a keeper and he's been watching his sessions on YouTube, tryna find things from them to do this summer. Some of the stuff he has the England keepers doing is boss, that's why I want him.

 

[Kendall's Dream]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/sky-sports-news-presenters.37396/

Needs an updated version with a poll!

 

[Toffeenick123]

Yes, and that 30% gives him 0% say in how things are run at Arsenal. There is a view that Usmanov wanted Wenger to be given serious transfer funds that would give him a real tilt at the PL and the CL. But the obstruction comes from Kroenke.

I think that Usmanov will come our way eventually. He won't allow Moshiri to be on the podium alone when we win the Premiership League Cup Fa Cup and Champions League..... Hahaha

 

[Goat]

Interesting that mate, didn't know he come in with Koeman. Like Goat, thought he was a Reid/Reed appointment a la Sammy Lee.

I know he's meant to be highly rated, my brothers a keeper and he's been watching his sessions on YouTube, tryna find things from them to do this summer. Some of the stuff he has the England keepers doing is boss, that's why I want him.

I do think he was a Les Reed appointment, ive just assumed with Esk saying Fat Sammy wouldnt be coming, I cant see the boy Watson coming, but who knows, maybe @The Esk ?

 

[Neiziro]

I can see why some people wanted Emery based on a very good European record. To me I remember the Fat Spanish Waiter being highly effective at setting up a team to win in Europe but then did nothing in the Premier league.

I also feel that it is evident that the Seville fans seem to attribute more of their success to Moshiri. That is not to say that Emery is not a talented coach but in reality the significance of Moshiri can not be underestimated. If the two did not come as a package then in reality we would only be getting a fraction of the team that brought about their success.

We have seen the likes of Villas Boas and Ramos, highly converted but in no way proved themselves in the Premier league.

What have Everton fans said we wanted in a manager?

1. An individual with a world class reputation that can attract players based on his standing in the game, something recent Everyon managers didn't have.

Just look at the record

- Multiple league titles and European Cup at PSV

- 190 plus appearances for Barcelona were he won the League 4 times, Cup and European Cup

- Won the European Championship with Holland

Was a name that like Gullit and Van Basten that as a kid you just thought legend!

A clear winning mentality.

Can we contrast with the Media Darling Klopp
Mainz, shall we notice a lot of runner ups (loser)

Bundesliga promotion: 2003–04

Borussia Dortmund

• Bundesliga: 2010–11, 2011–12,
• Runner-up: 2012–13, 2013–14
• DFB-Pokal: 2011–12 Runner-up: 2013–14, 2014–15
• DFL-Supercup: 2013,2014Runner-up: 2011, 2012
• LIGA total Cup: 2011, Runner-up: 2012
• UEFA Champions League: Runner-up: 2012-13

Liverpool

• Football League Cup: Runner-up: 2015–16
• UEFA Europa League: Runner-up: 2015–16

2. Tough and a disciplinarian when needs to be but as Schneiderlin described him very much treats players as human beings and can do the arm round shoulder. An essential to develop a Barkley character and with modern day wealthy footballers.

3. Tactically astute in the Premier league and a proven track record.

4. Flexible enough to work with a DoF but can act as an old school Manager if the right candidate for DoF can't be sourced e.g. Moshiri or Overmars, something Emery isn't proven at.

5. Will tackle Fitness an issue we've seen with the current squad and is essential to succeed in the Premier league so he's clearly going to address that. As we know from Martinez there is often an obsession in Europe with technical training over fitness.

6. Media savvy, good communicator and excellent grasp of English language. Not ever heard to use the word Phenomonal.

To me all that makes his appointment a no brainer.

Interesting point of view this.

Give this a read Blues if you're on the fence about Koeman.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Interesting point of view this.

Give this a read Blues if you're on the fence about Koeman.

I think he meant Monchi, not Moshiri.

 

[Goat]

Interesting point of view this.

Give this a read Blues if you're on the fence about Koeman.

I stopped reading when he claimed he has a better record than Klopp, im sorry but thats balderdash.

 

[Darth Vader]

Telegraph reporting Emery could be lined up by Southampton to replace Koeman

Who knows

But honestly what can Southampton offer him?

 

[ijjysmith]

Needs an updated version with a poll!

MODS UNLOCK THE BEAST

 

[HampshireHog]

I do think he was a Les Reed appointment, ive just assumed with Esk saying Fat Sammy wouldnt be coming, I cant see the boy Watson coming, but who knows, maybe @The Esk ?

Watson and Lee were both brought in by Les Reed when Ron, Erwin and Jan joined us to help ease their transition into English football. I would expect them to stay with us, unless they really want to join Koeman. Hope that helps!

 

[Billy Dean]

Who knows

But honestly what can Southampton offer him?

The chance to win the Europa league for a 4th consecutive year.

 

[BlueToff]

Howe would be a solid appointment by Southampton IMO. Im sure their fans will disagree but to me it makes sense. They supposedly have a 5 year plan like the old guy from big daddy. Why not hire a good young coach on the up who will be there for the duration of it.

I was a bit underwhelmed about koemen initially but I'm coming around to it. If nothing else because it feels like Moshiri won't tolerate average. He's not paying that kind of money for 7th.

Because as sensible as that is most fans (including a lot of ours) don't think like that. As proven in the last few weeks...