New league. What does it look like? Ideas, please.

[Dddddd]

It's going to happen at some point, whether that's changes in the Champions League or some form of the Super League. The big clubs will stay in the Premier League and ensure their place in European football every season, and the other clubs will go along with it because the alternative requires them giving up their main source of money.

Everything traditional fans see as bad is going to happen: more VAR, sinbins, cup finals and PL games in Saudi Arabia. It's gone too far that way already for it to turn back. That's money for you.

Money runs everything doesn’t it

“Traditional fans” set the game up and are going to have it taken away

 

[Marius57]

The new proposal included promotion and relegation.

Based off your first comment have you bothered to look into it? And then have you read my comment properly?

There are 3 leagues. Star, Gold and Blue. There is relegation from star into gold and from gold into blue and then relegation from blue.

To get into blue league, it is based off domestic league. So you could be relegated from blue, but win your domestic league and be in it anyway.

But a team in star or gold leagues, could avoid relegation from those leagues and finish 15th in PL, yet still have guaranteed European football. And they could do that every year.

If you are considered one of the top clubs at the very start, your chances of dropping out of Europe are incredibly slim, regardless of your domestic league position. It’s a European super league to keep the elite few at the top.

 

[Papa Shango]

Literally is unworkable to do both.

Because revenue wise would distort it even more than it already is. The clubs in the “gold” league have guaranteed revenue even if they finished 10th in the PL that season.

Tell them to do one. The local fan bases (the ones who primarily have season tickets etc) will soon realise that they are going to be priced out of it (as who can afford every away game being abroad?) and it will all come crumbling down anyway.

They could easily do an A and B team thing.

Send the "big clubs" star players into the A team for the Super Duper Mega league and have the players who usually play in the League Cup etc in the B team for the boring old regular league.

And the grimmest part of all of it is the league table probably wouldn't look much different to what it does now.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I wonder if it wold make them look differently at our situation. We are obviously one of the bigger 14 remaining clubs, would they want our fan base watching the championship while the scab 6 take their "fans" with them?!

 

[helpimonfire]

No idea

But it would be nice if 14 teams went on strike and refused to play until 6 scab ridden bad bell wiff clubs did one.

 

[Papa Shango]

I wonder if it wold make them look differently at our situation. We are obviously one of the bigger 14 remaining clubs, would they want our fan base watching the championship while the scab 6 take their "fans" with them?!

I don't even think the scab 6's real fans want anything to do with it. Not your regular match goers anyway.

The allure of Europe is playing dream matches against clubs you normally wouldn't play, if you play them every season then whats the point? They can't even gloat after winning in work the next day unless there is a random Barcelona fan or something in their workplace.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I don't even think the scab 6's real fans want anything to do with it. Not your regular match goers anyway.

The allure of Europe is playing dream matches against clubs you normally wouldn't play, if you play them every season then whats the point? They can't even gloat after winning in work the next day unless there is a random Barcelona fan or something in their workplace.

Yep, there will be little to no away fans either once the novelty of a 36 hour round trip dies on its arse

 

[Furey1878]

It's a terrible format. The idea that you can be in the gold league, finish outside the top 4-7 in the domestic league and still be in the gold league the following year is farcical. The likelihood is that it perpetuates clubs like Liverpool, City and United at the top as they realistically won't go out of the gold league. Think it will cause chaos in the bronze league and teams could very well get relegated from their domestic leagues and still be part of the bronze league. Let's say Brighton are in the Bronze league, they get a bunch of injuries and struggle to juggle the Prem and the Bronze League, they then get relegated from the Prem as a result but manage to stay up in the Bronze league, what are the consequences of that? Seems mental to me.

For those saying let them leave in their own "league" format, the only way to do it is to have it be the next tier above all the domestic leagues, you don't compete in your domestic league for as long as you avoid relegation, but then that brings in a whole other host of complications.

1. Are you only allowed so many clubs from each country?
2. If so does that mean say all the English teams avoid relegation, then are no promotion spots available for the top clubs in the domestic league? Whilst say Porto get relegated and Benfica are promoted in their place.
3. If there isn't a country quota, how long before it becomes a closed shop with say the English top 5/6, Real, Barca, Bayern and Juve?

It isn't just tradition for me, if you follow the thought process of either the re-branded super league they are now pushing or the idea of a breakaway league, both of them fall flat. Domestic leagues and a meritocracy based system is the only fair way.

 

[Swartzy]

It will fall flat on its arse, and would be a funny site seeing them trying to reintegrate in to there home leagues again, starting at the bottom of the cycle, eg National league. ( more like Sunday league ) with ffp now being enforced.

The clubs would go out of business just from the wage bill or they would have to just give the players away and literally start from scratch. ( with no great academy's to help them out.

 

[TGW89]

If it was from 24/25 onwards, and assuming the scab 6 do not participate on the side...

British Pro League A: 20 teams (drops to 18 in 2025/26)
- 14x 'small' PL clubs currently in the league (no relegation in 2023/24)
- Top 4 from this season's Champ
- Celtic and Rangers

League B: 22 teams (drops to 20 in 2025/26)
- Four SPL teams (3rd-6th place)
- Welsh champions of 23/24
- NI champions of 23/24
- Champ teams finishing 5th-20th in 2023/24

League C: 20 teams
- Champ bottom four in 2023/24
- SPL bottom six
- League One top 10 in 2023/24

League D/E/F (etc) North/Midland/South: All comprising of 20 teams
- The remaining teams (including Scotland, Wales and NI) are split into new regional divisions depending on where they finished in 2023/24.

Under this new system, no club plays more than 38 games in a season. This helps prevent burnout in young players, enabling national teams of Britain to more closely nurture emerging talent.

 

[blulouie]

Seeing as the Snidey Six are about to jump ship by the looks of it (although I'd love it if the Slighted Fourteen left them high and dry and left themselves to form a league), assuming we don't get relegated (or even if we do) what kind of league do we want for those left behind? Thought I'd start a thread by way of a think tank to bounce ideas around.

I'll start the ball rolling with this one. Each team has to have 3 home grown players on the pitch at all times. Have to have come through the clubs academy since they were 16. Every club can only ever have a set maximum number of kids at the academy. Not sure if the last bit is already in place. Anybody know?

Any other ideas regards transfer budgets, wages etc. Over to you GOTers

The Snake 6 are never leaving.....EVER.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

It will fall flat on its arse, and would be a funny site seeing them trying to reintegrate in to there home leagues again, starting at the bottom of the cycle, eg National league. ( more like Sunday league ) with ffp now being enforced.

The clubs would go out of business just from the wage bill or they would have to just give the players away and literally start from scratch. ( with no great academy's to help them out.

I hear what you’re saying mate, but I’d go further I would make it as plain as day that they would not be let back in at any level. If they are to be let back in it would have to be as a new club with a new name with no connection to the original club either by name or strip colour, if you like, they start from the bottom with no history.

 

[Goat]

If the Super League ever happened and teams left the league I would use the opportunity to bail the whole thing personally.

 

[Moomin]

If the Super League ever happened and teams left the league I would use the opportunity to bail the whole thing personally.

Tbe TV deals we have in place would be thrown in the bin and the new deal without the scab 6 would be quite a bit reduced.

Would be chaos for a few years with a few clubs in financial issues at first before it balanced out.

 

[Goat]

Tbe TV deals we have in place would be thrown in the bin and the new deal without the scab 6 would be quite a bit reduced.

Would be chaos for a few years with a few clubs in financial issues at first before it balanced out.

It would become a joke league.

I didnt sign up to support a team in a joke league.

But its never happening thankfully.