New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Simo]

Im sure the club will just increase the away end as a result, and not tell STHs they're being displaced at point of ST renewal/purchase. Oh silly me, they already did that start of this season for cup games

 

[Username.]

Just been on the resale site, the amount of tickets available for the Bournemouth game is unbelievable.

 

[D. Amokachi]

There comes a point where £70 to watch Everton get battered by Brentford no longer becomes value for money.

Especially with the membership also. I’ve been pushing my Dad and brother to get one so they could join me at a game but the membership plus ticket price in one go is £130. Combine that with knowing full well you could pay that and it’s another Spurs Newcastle Brentford then it’s no wonder some might hesitate.

We’ve consistently been close to the lowest scorers in the league. We hardly win any big games, we hardly win any derbies, we hardly ever have a cup run. The Everton board have seemingly worked a miracle over recent years of pedalling a proposition that is decreasing in quality every year but going up in price and yet has seen demand for it boom. That simply will not continue, something has to give. Either the team significantly improves, ticket prices go down, or attendances will. The middle one is only to happen so they need to get improving the team.

Good point. We have scored 23 goals in 21 league games this season. So you are effectively asking people to spend £70 to probably see one goal. Two if you are very lucky. The stadium itself was obviously a big draw at the start of the season but the novelty will wear off if the football is crap.

 

[Ray Purchase]

It's going to take some time, until it feels like home.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Just been on the resale site, the amount of tickets available for the Bournemouth game is unbelievable.

Grab us a few screenshots or a video if you dont mind pal?

 

[Big Sams Undies]

Grab us a few screenshots or a video if you dont mind pal?

It’s the back few rows on all 4 of the corners.

Same with Leeds this week.

They aren’t resale tickets, they are unsold tickets.

 

[Lanolin]

I disagree and agree to a point.

You talk down our fan base but if it was 62000 we'd fill it.

It's not a valid argument about doubling the attendances. Goodison had a low, restricted capacity. For this modern era, and I've always said it, if Goodison had 52k we'd fill it.

We move, it brings new fans. Tourists. More corporate. More day trippers.

Other clubs that have moved find ways to fill the stadium. Right now what's on the pitch is rubbish it would need pro active ticket sales.

The club and partners seem to be making it difficult selling/buying tickets. High prices are not justified.

The fans are there. The club screwed up big time.

I don't understand your point? I'm not 'talking down' our fanbase at all, I'm saying we don't have the sort of global fanbases that some clubs have and there isn't a never ending supply of day trippers who want to come and watch us the way they do those clubs. Our core fanbase is extremely passionate and loyal, and also made up in the main of people on relatively low income who can't necessarily afford to regularly pay significant amounts to watch football. Neither of those things are negatives in my opinion, in some ways they should be celebrated; if you think that's talking the fanbase down it says more about you than it does me. You're saying we'd sell out a 62k stadium but...we're not filling a 52k one, so where are you getting that idea from?! It really doesn't make any sense? Unless you mean we'd fill it if we were selling tickets for a quid or whatever, which just goes without saying and means nothing in the real world.

 

[Username.]

There's some there are more.

 

[Lanolin]

Yes, football attendances are booming and have now been growing across the board for years, with the whole sky/TV/premier-league marketing/financial bubble generally showing little sign of bursting just yet. As a consequence of that surge in demand, several clubs have been steadily increasing their ticket prices and/or have increased, or are looking to increase their capacities (with several expansion projects either underway or being considered). We have done both.

Recently, there appears to have been quite a lot more empty seats at some of our matches, with many more seats failing to sell on the resale market than initially. Has the oft-mentioned season ticket waiting list been exaggerated (to artificially boost demand for those expensive lounge seats perhaps)? If not, why aren't those fans taking up any slack? Or, has the club been a bit too greedy in pushing their pricing envelope for resale and walk-up tickets? Home form has been a bit middling, but hardly as bad as during most recent seasons, so I'm not sure that that's affected turnouts too much. Is it just a case of the quality of the opposition being less attractive in recent matches, or the usual post Christmas spending-slump? Has the initial novelty-factor already gone, or perhaps the reduced accessibility has begun to take its toll for many? Or is it just the rescheduling issue? It could well just be a combination of those and other factors, but it's now coming up to season ticket renewal time, with a few tentative fan polls indicating quite a few considering not renewing. If so, it may well test those waiting list numbers (which were largely accrued during a period of cheaper tickets, squeezed demand and heightened new-stadium effect).

Our fanbase is not a bottomless pit of latent demand, and that might have already reached the limit of its ticket price-elasticity. Hopefully the club will consider all of this when setting their prices. Maybe they should try to increase ST numbers slightly, to ensure those (nominal) full-house attendances for a second season..... plus adopt flexible ticket pricing for walk-ups and resales (to actually fill all the seats for each match). Empty seats in a brand new stadium is not a "good look," and can also be very counter productive in many other respects.

It won't be that the ST list was artificially exaggerated, it's just that there was never any reason not to get on the waiting list so it was never actually indicative of anything. You just stuck your name down for free with no obligation, people who thought it reflected the number of people who would actually take up a ST if they got the chance were always living in cloud cuckoo land, I've said this numerous times over recent years and always been shouted down on here but it was just undeniably true. There were even loads of posters on here in the summer admitting that they'd been offered tickets and turned them down. Again, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Season tickets are a massive commitment both in terms of finances and time, and lots of people like the idea of getting one but then find the reality to be totally different, especially when it becomes clear that the scenario in their head (going out on the beers with the lads before and after a saturday 3pm kick off every other week) isn't accurate and it's actually a load of midweek games in the middle of winter, last minute changes to fixtures, dashing straight from work to get into the ground 2 minutes after kick off without having had chance to get any tea or whatever and having to leave early to get the last train home etc.

 

[Username.]

How are they unsold tickets if there is a ballot, and people aren't getting tickets in the ballot, I'm curious.

 

[Benicetoourboys]

I always feel if I'm going then I'm doing my duty & I can't be worrying about empty seats.
I just love going.

 

[LANTERNROUGE]

How are they unsold tickets if there is a ballot, and people aren't getting tickets in the ballot, I'm curious.

Not enough take up in the ballot means the tickets go on normal general sale, but only as normal as needing to be a member . Demand for tickets is a pretty simple science, perform and entertain = high ticket demand, play like Everton = ever diminishing ticket demand

 

[Drico]

Save the paragraph!

 

[Noggsy blue]

Good read this..

The New Place...

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[PhilM]

Would we though ? I was all for going big on the capacity but it honestly feels , certainly from Perfectly justifiable moaning , that some people Fancied the idea of a season ticket without all that that entails .

I’ll tell you when we wouldn’t fill it when we played wolves because we didn’t fill II last week . We might get more travelling fans treating it as a day out , which again is something sound , because there has definitely been a big increase in that number but are they enough to sustain an increase of 10k ?

I wanted a bigger capacity but it feels like we probably got it right

This is my take: the club are, at least for the time being, vindicated in their choice. However, how plays out in the future, well who knows.

I think the fan base, as a whole, need to have a combination of realism and objectivity because a rebuild of this club is going to take its time.

The stadium is great, but it will take time for people to build relationships, people to find their 'sweet-spot' and it to become fully Evertonised.

It's going to take time to rebuild the squad: whilst the likes of N'Diaye, KDH, Grealish and Garner are great additions, we still have a lot to do elsewhere.

The football being served up at the moment due to our lack of depth will be a part in why games aren't selling out, combined with the day, time, price et al.

We also have to acknowledge that the owners will make mistakes, this includes with pricing. The next four home games being night games won't help!

*a situation the PL should never actually bloody allow