New Everton Stadium Discussion

But what if he had won and the rest of the country got to enjoy the level of spending on public transport that London has taken to expect for decades? We might have had a new train station next to BMD newly reopened lines and stations all over the city region and a regulated bus service taking fans to and from the stadium, amongst other things.

Forget about that mate greed is good, maybe Boris will completely shut Liverpool down like dear old Maggie failed to do in the eighties.
 
What's the appeals process in England like, you just know There'll be a bunch of septic reds will lodge a complaint based on traffic or world heritage, what's the Liverpool based reds take on it? Here in Ireland I've heard a few going on about how it shouldn't be allowed on a world heritage site, like they actually give a sh1t about what happens to Liverpool's status as world heritage. But appeals in Ireland can set projects back years.

Think the club have had the foresight to deal with the kite flyers, dog walkers and slum lovers. They ran two massive surveys, done consultations and ran questionnaires / walk ups, over 43000 residents took part and that was I think just in the second part of it. So a few bitter Edison's will be largely ignored.
Of course this is all irrelevant, as reds throughout the whole world say we and what we do don't matter, this should prove it. :)
 
But what if he had won and the rest of the country got to enjoy the level of spending on public transport that London has taken to expect for decades? We might have had a new train station next to BMD newly reopened lines and stations all over the city region and a regulated bus service taking fans to and from the stadium, amongst other things.

Do you remember when I mentioned adding an additional stop in between Sandhills and Moorefields, not only for the stadium but for the apartments, houses and retail/restaurants that will be built?

I got laughed at with people saying we should move Sandhills on stilts or whatever.

People are not educated on how infrastructure is a huge stimulant to an area, London have stations between stops which are a mere 5 minute walk, and now Manchester have just opened the extension to the new metro link.

An additional transport line like londons LDR on our own docks lands would be incredible, for transport on match days and for investment on cheap A grade office space which will be built in between Bramley Moore and the Liver Building.

Not getting HS2 and channel four is painful mind.
 

A few months if it all goes smoothly. During that time there will be consultations on the full plans, opportunities for people to comment, object, support etc.There will be a few planning committee meetings, which might make recommendations for changes (hopefully nothing major at this stage). The final meeting will allow people to speak in favour or against the plans.

So probably a bit of back and forth between the club and the council to come, but if everyone at Everton's end have done things right, hopefully nothing major (iirc the council planning bods objected to the aethetics of the West entrance for our new stadium so planning permission was granted on condition it was redesigned, so that kind of thing can happen).

It's not going to get called in. Call me cynical but this is perfect for Johnson. We Brexit, and a few months later a major project in the north is given the go ahead "proving" Brexit hasn't affected investment (ignoring the bubble Prem clubs live in). No way will his government calls it in. It'll be a bauble on Johnson's otherwise bare Brexit tree.

When will you know if it's going ahead? As far as I know you haven't started tendering for a main contractor yet. When you see that happening you can be pretty confident this won't be Kirkby MkII. But to be honest, the level of professionalism I've seen so far makes me pretty confident it's a goer anyway.

Good luck, and Merry Christmas! :cheers:

How do you know?
 
As far as I know you haven't started tendering for a main contractor yet.

I think it'd be fair to say that they've got a pretty good idea who the main contractor will be mate.

Chances are, they'll already be a short list of two or three, with one of them a firm favourite with Chong. Chong came to the club from Laing in 2016 - which obviously could just be a coincidence ( that industry is specialised, so people tend to move round it from one company to another ), but you'd imagine that Laing will be favourites to get the contract with the bookies.
 
Haven't seen anything reported, that's all. I think it was reported when we were tendering and again when we had a shortlist. Maybe I've missed something but I don't think I've read anything yet for BMD.
Wasn't Spurs stadium held up due to the car dealers/ scrapyard next door. Not sure but weren't they wanting more money to move. And who was the main contractor for your stadium. They did A great job
 
Application Details
Application Number19F/3253
Site AddressBramley Moore Dock Regent Road Liverpool
Application TypeFull Planning Permission
Development Typenew building/structure(s)
ProposalApplication for Full Planning Permission in accordance with submitted drawings for the demolition of existing buildings/structures on site (listed in the schedule); remediation works; foundation/piling works; infill of the Bramley-Moore Dock, alteration to dock walls and dock isolation works with vehicular and pedestrian links above; and other associated engineering works to accommodate the development of a stadium (Use Class D2) predominantly for football use with the ability to host other events with ancillary offices (Use Class B1a); Club Shop and retail concessions (internal and external to the stadium) (Use Class A1); exhibition and conference facilities (Use Class D1); food and drink concessions (internal and external to the stadium) (Use Classes A3 / A4 / A5); betting shop concessions (Sui Generis); and associated infrastructure including: electric substation, creation of a water channel, outside broadcast compound, photo-voltaic canopy, storage areas/compound, security booth, external concourse / fan zone including performance stage, vehicular and pedestrian access and circulation areas, hard and soft landscaping (including canopies, lighting, wind mitigation structures, public art and boundary treatments), cycle parking structures and vehicle parking (external at grade and multi-storey parking) and change of use of the Hydraulic Tower structure to an exhibition / cultural centre (Use Class D1) with ancillary food and drink concession (Use Class A3).
 

A few months if it all goes smoothly. During that time there will be consultations on the full plans, opportunities for people to comment, object, support etc.There will be a few planning committee meetings, which might make recommendations for changes (hopefully nothing major at this stage). The final meeting will allow people to speak in favour or against the plans.

So probably a bit of back and forth between the club and the council to come, but if everyone at Everton's end have done things right, hopefully nothing major (iirc the council planning bods objected to the aethetics of the West entrance for our new stadium so planning permission was granted on condition it was redesigned, so that kind of thing can happen).

It's not going to get called in. Call me cynical but this is perfect for Johnson. We Brexit, and a few months later a major project in the north is given the go ahead "proving" Brexit hasn't affected investment (ignoring the bubble Prem clubs live in). No way will his government calls it in. It'll be a bauble on Johnson's otherwise bare Brexit tree.

When will you know if it's going ahead? As far as I know you haven't started tendering for a main contractor yet. When you see that happening you can be pretty confident this won't be Kirkby MkII. But to be honest, the level of professionalism I've seen so far makes me pretty confident it's a goer anyway.

Good luck, and Merry Christmas! :cheers:
I believe that the plans were drawn up in consultation with the local authority.

given that and the amount of investment / regeneration I would be very suprised if the application did not proceed smoothly.
 
Application Details
Application Number19F/3253
Site AddressBramley Moore Dock Regent Road Liverpool
Application TypeFull Planning Permission
Development Typenew building/structure(s)
ProposalApplication for Full Planning Permission in accordance with submitted drawings for the demolition of existing buildings/structures on site (listed in the schedule); remediation works; foundation/piling works; infill of the Bramley-Moore Dock, alteration to dock walls and dock isolation works with vehicular and pedestrian links above; and other associated engineering works to accommodate the development of a stadium (Use Class D2) predominantly for football use with the ability to host other events with ancillary offices (Use Class B1a); Club Shop and retail concessions (internal and external to the stadium) (Use Class A1); exhibition and conference facilities (Use Class D1); food and drink concessions (internal and external to the stadium) (Use Classes A3 / A4 / A5); betting shop concessions (Sui Generis); and associated infrastructure including: electric substation, creation of a water channel, outside broadcast compound, photo-voltaic canopy, storage areas/compound, security booth, external concourse / fan zone including performance stage, vehicular and pedestrian access and circulation areas, hard and soft landscaping (including canopies, lighting, wind mitigation structures, public art and boundary treatments), cycle parking structures and vehicle parking (external at grade and multi-storey parking) and change of use of the Hydraulic Tower structure to an exhibition / cultural centre (Use Class D1) with ancillary food and drink concession (Use Class A3).

Where’s that from mate?
 

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