New Everton Owners: The Friedkin Group

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Walsh was a very good scout. He proved that at Leicester. Then Everton saddled him with the title of 'Sporting Dirtector' or some such 'kin nonsense instead of just brining him in without piling the expectation of miracle man on his shoulders. Even when he had a fat headed throbber like Koeman determined to undermine him he still brought in some very good players. In a long line of appointment disasters at this club Steve Walsh comes way down the list.
 
Walsh was a very good scout. He proved that at Leicester. Then Everton saddled him with the title of 'Sporting Dirtector' or some such 'kin nonsense instead of just brining him in without piling the expectation of miracle man on his shoulders. Even when he had a fat headed throbber like Koeman determined to undermine him he still brought in some very good players. In a long line of appointment disasters at this club Steve Walsh comes way down the list.
Yup. We took a renowned scout and turned him into something he simply wasn't. Were we expecting success?

That said, he didn't have to accept the role. So, he was far from blameless himself.
 
Yup. We took a renowned scout and turned him into something he simply wasn't. Were we expecting success?

That said, he didn't have to accept the role. So, he was far from blameless himself.


Maybe he thought that fat headed Dutch fraud who was used to working with D0Fs would act like a professional and work with him rather than undermine him?
 
He’s since moved on to have great success in esteemed roles such as… er…




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Yeah but Kante and Mahrez.
That's true. But his reputation prior to us was excellent. I'm sure we also fattened up his bank account to the extent that when he finally left us the attractions of scouting were superfluous.

Once Everton has touched you...
 
Yup. We took a renowned scout and turned him into something he simply wasn't. Were we expecting success?

That said, he didn't have to accept the role. So, he was far from blameless himself.

What’s up from a head scout? I genuinely don’t know but if he was successful as a head scout and was taking the next step that he earned a crack at being a sporting director if that’s the next step up?
 
Not sure if there was a DoF in the world who would have been a success then. Kenwright was playing his own games and simply walking over the DoF and Moshiri wanted to impress his mates by buying expensive toys.

DoFs most important thing is not to pick the players but to create a system and making sure club signs *right* players to each position. This is something a scout doesn't do so it is possible Walsh was not capable but when you have your boss and owner both pulling to different directions I don't know how anyone could have done that. Having said that 2017 summer was the summer that caused more problems than any and it was ridiculous. Lukaku was sold and replaced by Sandro. Deulofeu was sold and was replaced basically by no-one. We actually lost four wingers that summer and signed exactly no-one (Deulofeu, Lennon, Lookman and McGeady).
 
What’s up from a head scout? I genuinely don’t know but if he was successful as a head scout and was taking the next step that he earned a crack at being a sporting director if that’s the next step up?
Is there a need for a step up? If you're a specialist, you're a specialist. Moshiri hadn't a clue and overpromoted someone who was clearly out of his depth in the new role. But then he kept Bill close, so he had form...
 
Is there a need for a step up? If you're a specialist, you're a specialist. Moshiri hadn't a clue and overpromoted someone who was clearly out of his depth in the new role. But then he kept Bill close, so he had form...
It might have been Peter principle in action but because of the circus at the club it's impossible to know how he could have done given full control.
 
Same as our supporters I supose

But point being after all their consultation FSG have took no notice of them.
Disagreeing and taking no notice are two different things. I'm in no way defending billionaires, but "protests" like this are just a joke, there is absolutely no teeth to them. Obviously it's terrible as supporters that the best way to protest is to not participate, but in reality that's the only way to change minds.
 
Walsh gets lots of [Poor language removed] while it was obvious he wasn't running things (Kenwright was). For instance do you really believe it was his idea to sign three #10s in one window? Lookman and Gueye are players I'm pretty sure he picked, Bolasie maybe. And we were really unlucky with Bolasie, he had like five assists in a few months, mostly for Lukaku before getting injured and never really getting over it. Keane, no idea who signed him ultimately and while he has been crap for long periods he will have been at the club for 10 years when he leaves which is not very common these days. He has played over 260 matches and scored 19 goals. Pickford likewise, no idea who signed him but Walsh was DoF at the time and he's one of the best signings in our entire PL history.

Of the poor signings Sigurdsson was so obviously a Moshiri vanity project. He overpaid by about double what Sigurdsson's worth was just to make a point.

Williams, Schneiderlin and Klaassen were total wastes of space, and I would bet the last one was on Walsh for sure, the other two probably. Vlasic was the #10 he obviously signed (Kenwright brought back Rooney) and IMO was a decent gamble for 10 million. Onyekuru was a joke of a signing and Sandro was really odd if it really was Walsh who signed him (scouts usually do more than just see how many goals someone scored last season). Walcott and Tosun were signed by Allardyce.

Walsh was not good by any stretch but his downfall was summer 2017. Two of the players signed then are still at the club while we made huge losses on Sigurdsson and Klaassen. Vlasic, Onyekuru and Sandro cost a combined 20 million and you'd hope that outlay had some sort of impact. Overall he made some good signings, some so-so and some terrible but it's really hard to distinguish how much the circus at the club affected. Same as with
Brands who famously complained he was not really in control. Not exactly the first time in Premier League this has happened, or is happening that owner meddles in things he should not. Worse still, we had previous owner doing the same.

It's funny how in one message we should sign Brighton's and Bournemouth's scouts but in the next we shouldn't do what they do. The point of this model is to find the correct types of players. There are at least a hundred right-backs who could do a job in the PL. How do you sort through all of them? Send scouts to watch each and every one of them 20 times? And this is just one position. And of course what Brighton does is finding the players that are not necessary on bigger clubs' radar yet. They don't do that by having a scout in every match played in South America.
I think you have summarised the chaos of the early days of the Moshiri era quite nicely, except I would not call Onyekuru a joke of a signing. He had trouble getting a work permit when we signed him and couldn't join the club immediately, meaning he got sent out on loan to Anderlecht. Whilst the club could be criticised for signing someone without a work permit, it seems a little unfair to call Onyekuru a joke of a signing when he appeared to be a promising up and coming attacker who went on to perform well out on loan. When you brought his name up, I remembered how disappointed I felt that we never got the chance to see him play for us.
 

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