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[Rook]

Last year about 45,000 doctors and nurses* crossed the English Channel so how can there be a crisis in the NHS! - don`t listen to the fear-mongers they`re just winding us up.**


*Not all of them were doctors and nurses, some of them were engineers and scientists.***

**45,000 health care workers were just looking for a better life but were cruelly deported back to the UK for a life of 3rd world wages.

***Not all of them were health care workers, some were engineers and scientists who lost their jobs after Brexit

 

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[Oddball]

**45,000 health care workers were just looking for a better life but were cruelly deported back to the UK for a life of 3rd world wages.

***Not all of them were health care workers, some were engineers and scientists who lost their jobs after Brexit

Don`t talk rubbish as if the brain drain wasn`t a thing in the real world.
I`ve got family who have travelled to all parts of the world (mostly Europe) since we `left` the EU so i`ll go with my first hand experience thank you!

Stop moaning about income, we could have a high wage economy like Germany but we`ve got a low-wage one thanks to Tories/Labour and it`ll never change due to their policies regarding supply/demand of labour ie. immigration, why else do you think those "returning health workers*" are on a subsistence wage?

*I don`t think hoards of Brits were repatriated.

#Don`tBelieveTheHype

 

[Oddball]

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They started selling the NHS off in the 80`s, maybe sooner. How many £Billions has the UK taxpayer put into it since then? Suckered.

 

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[Yarrgh]

Archaic management inefficiencies
An aging population
A population with increasingly unhealthy lifestyles
An increased ratio of female to male medschool entrants who will favour part time working compared to males
Doctors retiring early, as being a high earner is so unrewarding in the tax system, it's not worth the stress of modern clinical medicine

I imagine to suggest anything other than Tory cuts being to blame for NHS pressures on here will have me cast as some kind of goose stepping skinhead, but money is not the answer to any of those problems.

I agree. However the last 12 years of decline have been presided over by the Tories. There's plenty of blame to spread around but we can't let these weasels in charge wriggle off the hook.

I for one will hold the likely Labour government that comes in responsible for stopping the hemorrhaging and turning things around.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Last year about 45,000 doctors and nurses* crossed the English Channel so how can there be a crisis in the NHS! - don`t listen to the fear-mongers they`re just winding us up.




*Not all of them were doctors and nurses, some of them were engineers and scientists.

Erm... What?

 

[Tree13]

Don`t talk rubbish as if the brain drain wasn`t a thing in the real world.
I`ve got family who have travelled to all parts of the world (mostly Europe) since we `left` the EU so i`ll go with my first hand experience thank you!

Stop moaning about income, we could have a high wage economy like Germany but we`ve got a low-wage one thanks to Tories/Labour and it`ll never change due to their policies regarding supply/demand of labour ie. immigration, why else do you think those "returning health workers*" are on a subsistence wage?

*I don`t think hoards of Brits were repatriated.

#Don`tBelieveTheHype

I genuinely can't work out what point you're trying to make.

But I do know you mean "hordes" rather than "hoards".

 

[Oddball]

1/I genuinely can't work out what point you're trying to make.

2/But I do know you mean "hordes" rather than "hoards".

1/ never mind

2/ thanks

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Don`t talk rubbish as if the brain drain wasn`t a thing in the real world.
I`ve got family who have travelled to all parts of the world (mostly Europe) since we `left` the EU so i`ll go with my first hand experience thank you!

Stop moaning about income, we could have a high wage economy like Germany but we`ve got a low-wage one thanks to Tories/Labour and it`ll never change due to their policies regarding supply/demand of labour ie. immigration, why else do you think those "returning health workers*" are on a subsistence wage?

*I don`t think hoards of Brits were repatriated.

#Don`tBelieveTheHype

Doe Germany has higher levels of migration than the U.K.? Bit of a weird argument.

 

[Jebus_lives]

1/ never mind

2/ thanks

Maybe you can explain. It might help rather than you trying to derail another thread.

#justathought

 

[Number_25]

Last year about 45,000 doctors and nurses* crossed the English Channel so how can there be a crisis in the NHS! - don`t listen to the fear-mongers they`re just winding us up.




*Not all of them were doctors and nurses, some of them were engineers and scientists.

People like you are why the NHS is struggling to appoint qualified people from overseas.

Judging by the way you type and your social views, you're in your late 90s. You of all people shouldn't be so gleeful when there's no one there to care for you.

 

[Oddball]

Doe Germany has higher levels of migration than the U.K.? Bit of a weird argument.

Break the mold, look it up.

They`ve always had a high wage economy, it`s just the way Germany rolls.

Labour has always used immigration to keep wages down while the Tories used unemployment to keep wages down by flooding the labour market.
In todays Britain both parties are pro-immigration.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Net migration for the UK in the year ending June 2022 was estimated to be 504,000.