Lord Byron
Player Valuation: ÂŁ950k
I remember when we were linked with him when he was at Rangers. Slippy G was quoted as saying Everton would have to pay mega bucks to sign him. 
He was right - and we did. Unfortunately, that’s the risk you take when buying promising young players: if they fulfil their potential, it turns out to be a shrewd acquisition; if they fail to live up to the hype, you’ve paid over the odds.I remember when we were linked with him when he was at Rangers. Slippy G was quoted as saying Everton would have to pay mega bucks to sign him.
Like a fishing lure for bigots this thread.
Still never seen him have one of these absolute disasterclasses that people try and gaslight me into believing he has every time he steps out onto a pitch.
It’s literally the other way around. The longer he doesn’t play the more we get told he can’t possibly be allowed on a football pitch ever again because he’s so catastrophically bad. If you can find me some quotes of anyone saying he’s some amazing top class player I’d be grateful.
Sad to see a constructive discussion being derailed by people who are only here to sling mud at posters they don't like. And bizarre to see grown men challenging people to produce evidence of things that nobody ever typed.
What's odd is that he started at RB vs Forest and we won comfortably and kept a clean sheet.
He was dropped against Brentford and we had a defensive stinker.
He came back in for the Villa game and another clean sheet.
Stayed in against Leeds and we got a draw.
If you add in the Sunderland game, which he didn't play badly in, I'm struggling to see what about his performances this season indicate a defensive liability.
Valid points mate. With all those things considered, and taking into account his reaction when Moyes hauled him off on 71 minutes v Leeds, I guess the question has to be "what isn't he doing that the manager asks him to do?"
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: ÂŁ100m
I still don't think Patterson is any good and probably doesn't have a career in the PL ahead of him. It's also blindingly obvious that this team functions better when anyone but O'Brien is at RB. He does not understand how to play the position. He's getting by because he's athletic, works hard, and is a solid footballer generally. It is not helpful to the team at large having him over there.
Bishop Thumpety-Thump
Player Valuation: ÂŁ20m
A really weird agenda based on different interpretations of an imaginary friend.
I dint think he's a particularly good player either, but he's our best positional RB.
Playing Garner there stops him playing in CM.
And, the criticism of Patterson is that "he's a defensive liability" but as I've mentioned above, I'm not sure that's borne out in the performance or the results.
It's something else, yes.
Perhaps it's a physicality issue or a mentality one. Dyche and Moyes are of a similar breed in that they value graft and discipline over other attributes and neither wanted him.
Benitez and Lampard seemingly had no issue.
I think it might be due to the lack of attacking intent shown by Patterson in the matches he recently started. Tarkowski kept passing to Patterson and rather than looking to progress, he just one-touch passed the ball back to Tarks on most occasions, meaning Tarkowski either went long or had to turn and pass out from the back via Keane and Mykolenko. Possibly a confidence issue and Patterson keeping things ultra simple so as not to make a mistake, but it severely hampers the team when playing out from the back if one player is seemingly unwilling or uncomfortable doing so.
Patterson is 6' 1" so quite tall for a full back.
