2022/23 Nathan Patterson

[den]

Ha ha ha.

You actually provide that as evidence to the contrary of what I'm saying.

WTF is he pushing out for and leaving the back post unguarded?

Lol.

I don’t know anything, but after the goal Iwobi turned and gestured toward the post and his look seemed to say someone else was supposed to be there and was out of position.

 

[Nymzee]

I don’t know anything, but after the goal Iwobi turned and gestured toward the post and his look seemed to say someone else was supposed to be there and was out of position.

Players get told whether to be on the post or not. You can easily tell no one was actually told to be on the posts otherwise Pickford would have said something before the corner came in. Some managers don’t like posts manned which I’ve always found to be unnecessarily risky.

 

[den]

Players get told whether to be on the post or not. You can easily tell no one was actually told to be on the posts otherwise Pickford would have said something before the corner came in. Some managers don’t like posts manned which I’ve always found to be unnecessarily risky.

I trust you. I just remember watching his reaction and thinking he definitely thought someone else was supposed to be there.

 

[Nymzee]

I trust you. I just remember watching his reaction and thinking he definitely thought someone else was supposed to be there.

Oh I mean I don’t know for sure. It’s just quit common in the modern game to not have people on the posts. I think managers don’t want to be outnumbered in the box. It’s bizarre but so is modern football.

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

I don’t know anything, but after the goal Iwobi turned and gestured toward the post and his look seemed to say someone else was supposed to be there and was out of position.

But if you watch before the goal, the player is clearly Iwobi’s man, Iwobi is looking at him, he watched the ball for a second, man slips off his shoulder, he doesn’t realise or react, man puts it in the net.

It’s nothing to do with Paterson, it’s all on Iwobi for losing his man and Myko who played everyone onside.

 

[davek]

But if you watch before the goal, the player is clearly Iwobi’s man, Iwobi is looking at him, he watched the ball for a second, man slips off his shoulder, he doesn’t realise or react, man puts it in the net.

It’s nothing to do with Paterson, it’s all on Iwobi for losing his man and Myko who played everyone onside.

What's Patterson's role in the defence of this corner....?

 

[DualityNSNO]

What's Patterson's role in the defence of this corner....?

Gotta love the hill you're dying on - nitpicking a young player with less than 10 games in the prem because of a POSSIBLE (not even certain) lapse in concentration.

Coleman does this every game for the last year and more - you sleep.

???????

 

[BigDuncTributeBand]

What's Patterson's role in the defence of this corner....?

It’s not marking Iwobi’s man for him, that’s for sure.

 

[davek]

It’s not marking Iwobi’s man for him, that’s for sure.

....so what is it?

 

[Nymzee]

....so what is it?

But I thought you already know everything about football? Why do you need help here?

 

[ToffeeTim]

It’s not marking Iwobi’s man for him, that’s for sure.

They are both at fault for me. Iwobi obviously loses his man, but Patterson didn't come round on the cover either. We have to cut out big errors like that, especially at set plays, if we are going to be so toothless

 

[Mosh Pit]

What's Patterson's role in the defence of this corner....?

"Don't do anything stupid..."

 

[davek]

But I thought you already know everything about football? Why do you need help here?

...so what's the answer?

"Don't do anything stupid..."

...just stand aside?

 

[Eggs]

What's Patterson's role in the defence of this corner....?

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[Drico]

As a former amateur goalkeeper myself, it boils my blood to see goals creep in at unmanned posts from corners. These are things you can control. So, control the controllables. Worrying about playing fellas onside is nonsense. It's a corner. They're all onside. A properly-marshalled defence can deal with second balls after any initial clearance. But the men stay on the post until that ball clears the penalty box. Being outnumbered is also a nonsense. No team is packing the box with almost every outfield player unless it's injury time. They always keep at least one back - and others will be outside the box. As mentioned, a well-marshalled defence has a chance to cope with that - but nobody can cope with unmanned posts. If the ball ends up there - as if often does from set plays - it's a goal. A preventable goal.

Any time I see a goal creep in at an unmanned post, I put the blame squarely on the goalkeeper. He is not dominating his area. I doubt managers - who know next to nothing about goalkeeping - are dictating this in most cases. Maybe people like Benitez - who think they know everything - are. But in most cases, I'm sure goalkeepers - and their coaches - are deciding what the course of action is in these situations. Same for free-kicks. If a wall does not do its job, it is almost always the fault of the goalkeeper. Yes, there are cases where an idiot ducks or pulls away from his team mates leaving a gap and selling his goalkeeper down the river, but the keeper must set it up correctly and choose the right position on the line to deal with the ensuing shot. Anybody ducking should be royally bollocked and be left in no doubt where the finger of blame is pointing. This is where the likes of David de Gea fall down. Too quiet.

Part of the art of goalkeeping is realising there are idiots on your team who cannot be relied on to stay on posts, stand on a ball having conceded a free, or stand up tall and stay tight in a wall. It is the goalkeeper who ensures these morons are not part of his first line of set-play defence on a post or in a wall.