My prediction for England's future

[TheBigIguana]

England have the potential to put together a very strong side in the coming years. The French, Germans, Brazilians and so on will probably also have a strong side though so I wouldn't suggest going all crazy with the golden generation stuff like winning things is a given.

 

[Ballly]

England have the potential to put together a very strong side in the coming years. The French, Germans, Brazilians and so on will probably also have a strong side though so I wouldn't suggest going all crazy with the golden generation stuff like winning things is a given.

Yes, exactly. Players like Foden, Hudson Odoi, Rice, Maddison, seem like they are going to be talented Premier league players players but most, if not all, only have the potential at this point to be great at the international level in the biggest tournaments of the Euros and World Cup. Even someone like Sancho hasn't done anything at that level yet and is massively unproven. Its exciting and reason for optimism for sure with such a pool but like you said, the other constant world powers like the Germans seem to just keep recycling players over and over of real quality with the DNA of big tournament success and soon for example we will see the likes of Havertz (20), Werner (24), Sane (24), Woltemade (18), Katterbach (18), Geiger (21), Thiaw (18), Agu (20), Tillman (17) and Kimmich (24) to take over the mantle for the likes of Mueller and Kroos as their new generation. Will be fun to watch unfold but as usual with England, its hard to have any real belief with so many false dawns.

 

[Paris]

Foden? What has he done exactly?

Pep keeps playing him and I believe Pep knows a thing or two about midfielders.

 

[Ballly]

Pep keeps playing him and I believe Pep knows a thing or two about midfielders.

Oh, ok. But Pep doesn't manage England and you've got a very young and inexperienced player who has only made 18 appearances this season for his club in as the only must start in midfield for England. Hopefully he can break in over time and become a difference maker at Qatar.

 

[Paris]

Oh, ok. But Pep doesn't manage England and you've got a very young and inexperienced player who has only made 18 appearances this season for his club in as the only must start in midfield for England. Hopefully he can break in over time and become a difference maker at Qatar.

Point out where I said he must start now please.

 

[Billy Dean]

England have the potential to put together a very strong side in the coming years. The French, Germans, Brazilians and so on will probably also have a strong side though so I wouldn't suggest going all crazy with the golden generation stuff like winning things is a given.

You can add the Netherlands and Portugal to that too amongst others (Turkey, Poland etc). I think we'll see some good tournaments in the 2020s

 

[Yarrgh]

Foden? What has he done exactly?

Only time will tell if he is as good as is hoped for.

Mind you with a user name and avatar that refers to Alan Ball, I suspect you are judging against only the very best!

 

[Ballly]

Oh, ok. But Pep doesn't manage England and you've got a very young and inexperienced player who has only made 18 appearances this season for his club in as the only must start in midfield for England. Hopefully he can break in over time and become a difference maker at Qatar.

You didn't. But he was the only midfielder whose name you listed so I presumed he would be starting in your team as the rest are so 'average'. Again, not sure what he has accomplished yet for you to only list him but we can move on if I mis understood your thinking.......

 

[Ballly]

Point out where I said he must start now please.

You didn't. But he was the only midfielder whose name you listed so I presumed he would be starting in your team as the rest are so 'average'. Again, not sure what he has accomplished yet for you to only list him but we can move on if I mis understood your thinking.......

 

[Ballly]

Only time will tell if he is as good as is hoped for.

Mind you with a user name and avatar that refers to Alan Ball, I suspect you are judging against only the very best!

Correct. Names like Foden, Sancho, Hudson Odoi, Rice are all exciting players that have yet to accomplish anything at the international level and are all players with potential to be good, even great. But we've seen this story many times before with players such as Wilshire, Walcott, D Bentley, Joe Cole, Micah Richards, Ravel Morrison who were all talked about as the next superstar to take England to glory in their late teens and we know how little impact they had. As a post said above, we seem to have a lot of similar type attacking players coming through which is good for depth (much needed in the big tournaments) so hopefully Southgate (or whoever is in charge by Qatar) can mould that undoubted potential into an exciting team ready to challenge the proven winners such as Germany, Italy, France, Brazil and Argentina.

 

[Paris]

You didn't. But he was the only midfielder whose name you listed so I presumed he would be starting in your team as the rest are so 'average'. Again, not sure what he has accomplished yet for you to only list him but we can move on if I mis understood your thinking.......

He has garnered a lot of praise from those who know about football and stuff and Pep fancies him (in a non-gay way) so I'd say he's a decent prospect as long as he keeps developing as he has been so far.

 

[Ballly]

He has garnered a lot of praise from those who know about football and stuff and Pep fancies him (in a non-gay way) so I'd say he's a decent prospect as long as he keeps developing as he has been so far.

Agree. It will be interesting to see him develop. Hopefully Pep stays there for a few more years and can oversee it.....

 

[Paris]

Jude Bellingham is also meant to be another bright prospect and a midfielder, but I'm yet to have seen him play.

 

[Billy Dean]

Yes, exactly. Players like Foden, Hudson Odoi, Rice, Maddison, seem like they are going to be talented Premier league players players but most, if not all, only have the potential at this point to be great at the international level in the biggest tournaments of the Euros and World Cup. Even someone like Sancho hasn't done anything at that level yet and is massively unproven. Its exciting and reason for optimism for sure with such a pool but like you said, the other constant world powers like the Germans seem to just keep recycling players over and over of real quality with the DNA of big tournament success and soon for example we will see the likes of Havertz (20), Werner (24), Sane (24), Woltemade (18), Katterbach (18), Geiger (21), Thiaw (18), Agu (20), Tillman (17) and Kimmich (24) to take over the mantle for the likes of Mueller and Kroos as their new generation. Will be fun to watch unfold but as usual with England, its hard to have any real belief with so many false dawns.

TBF though, the Germans consider England to be one of the best developers of young talent in world football at the moment. Certainly better than what they’re producing at the moment. But still I’d expect Germany to find a way to have more tournament success than England despite that.

 

[Nymzee]

I mean we have one of the most talented national generations in world football it's just putting them together properly and getting the mentals right for tournament footie. We could have the below team in like 5 years time (still missing a top quality proper CM for me as Rice is bang average).

Henderson
Gomez White Holgate
TAA Mount Foden Chilwell
Sancho Greenwood Sterling
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Rashford
DCL
Kane
James
AWB
Saka
CHO
Maddison
Alli
Tomori
McNeil
Maguire
RLC
Winks
Stones
Ward-Prowse
Barkley
Bellingham
etc.
etc.