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Seems like it's a case of kid gets bullied most of his life, loses plot and innocent people pay the price.
 
Europe has caught 'America's' disease, mass killings all over the gaff. Made me laugh sardonically seeing Obama piping up on the news acting all concerned for 'Ze German peoplez' with the state his own gaff is in, imagine Merkel piping up concerned every time there was a mass shooting over there.

Seems this has pretty much zero to do with ISIS or Islam then?
 

It absolutely is a terrorist attack.
Seems the definition of 'terrorism' is open to interpretation. For me, terrorism requires the notion that it is indiscriminate, usually done in the name of something, and has a byproduct of instilling fear in the public that they be next.

By that definition, a nutter going out and gunning people down because he's angry about something simply isn't terrorism.

But then frankly, I don't see much point obsessing over whether an act falls under a particular dictionary definition. It is what it is.
 
But then frankly, I don't see much point obsessing over whether an act falls under a particular dictionary definition. It is what it is.
It is an important distinction, mate.

Unfortunately, there is an unholy conjunction of interests whenever there is something that could be classed as a 'terrorist attack'.

The terrorists, if it is an attack with a terrorist aim, succeed in their aim of sowing fear in the general population.

The media 'terrorists' such as the Daily Mail and Fox News achieve both their clickbait aims and their political goals of pushing all sides to extremes.

The political 'terrorists' such as Trump and Le Pen can profit from any act that demonises the 'other' over their supporters.

The administrative 'terrorists' in government can implement even more intrusive laws to infringe on people's privacy and liberty.
 
But that's not even the crux of the matter. I don't like politicians but I'd like to think most desire to stop the likes of islamic state, the IRA, far right terror cells etc. But how on earth do we stop the likes of ISIS. I've literally no idea. If we do nothing they will attack and kill with free reign. If we go all Donald Trump and threaten to obliterate them then we give then all the recruitment boosts they could ever dream of.

I genuinely have got no idea.
Good post. The peace process in Ireland was largely symbolic. Decommissioning of weaponary was pageantry. What was the key point was the decommissioning of mindsets. How you achieve that with ISIS is unknown.
 

Good post. The peace process in Ireland was largely symbolic. Decommissioning of weaponary was pageantry. What was the key point was the decommissioning of mindsets. How you achieve that with ISIS is unknown.

Oh don't get me wrong this is a much worse situation with ISIS and I'm not even sure a political outcome is possible.

What are they actually fighting for? I haven't a clue.
 
Of course it was. I don't understand the logic in trying to deny that it was. Probably the same logic that was employed when Germany tried to suppress and prevent the media from reporting the mass sexual assaults in Cologne on New Year's Eve.

Apparently over 1000 sexual attacks there by immigrants reported....thats awful and the germans dont seem to have taken any action.
 
Oh don't get me wrong this is a much worse situation with ISIS and I'm not even sure a political outcome is possible.

What are they actually fighting for? I haven't a clue.
They want exactly what it says on the tin, a state governed by Islamic law:- a caliphate. Western states are viewed as an obstacle to achieving this.
 
This time it is a small time job - only one dead. 21 years old Syrian lad slashed to death one woman and hurt 2 more.

Refugees Wilkomen !
 

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