Mucha: Howard is a very average keeper!

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I remember Nigel Martyn saying something along the lines of....."You see him pull some saves off in training, that make you stop & wonder how he managed to pull it off"

I seen him drop the ball at John o Shea,s feet when we were 2-0 up against utd and wondered, how he managed to pull that off! The inevitable capitulation followed.
 

I seen him drop the ball at John o Shea,s feet when we were 2-0 up against utd and wondered, how he managed to pull that off! The inevitable capitulation followed.

How old was he then mate?

He's still young now, especially for a keeper.

One for the future, no doubt.
 
Ah im only joking, think he has potential but he is taking an awful long time to realise it, i thought he would of pushed howard more for a starting spot than he has. The fact that moyes chose to bring in mucha tells me a lot.
 
Its a boit sad that a lot of clubs are hoarding good keepers, Hart, Given, Cudichini, Begovic, Krul, are all quality prem keepers for me.

Just to ask if Howard was English do you think he be the National Teams No1?
 

Its a boit sad that a lot of clubs are hoarding good keepers, Hart, Given, Cudichini, Begovic, Krul, are all quality prem keepers for me.

Just to ask if Howard was English do you think he be the National Teams No1?

He would have been, yes.

Now though, I think Hart's staking his claim, and good on him. What a young keeper he is.
 
Speaking of Rocky 4, little known fact that that training scene in the snow is actually based on Johnny Heitinga's warm-up routine for derbies.

On topic: I'd have Howard over Mucha tomorrow, as if it's even up for debate.
 
hey neiler, why do you hate tim howard so much. i have been reading the post on this forum for a year now and notice no matter what howard does you always put him down. what gives, why all the hate? just woundering.
 

hey neiler, why do you hate tim howard so much. i have been reading the post on this forum for a year now and notice no matter what howard does you always put him down. what gives, why all the hate? just woundering.

Im just not a fan mate, i think hes a good average keeper its a position i would like us to strengthen.

Im not often critcal of Everton players, but i just dont rate a lot of Howards performences and think there are many flaws in his game - just my opinion like. He and Heitinga at centreback for me are very overatted, not that that they are dire or are without some talent but my opinion is that a lot of our support over rate them - Johnny has huge potential though.
 
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Im just not a fan mate, i think hes a good average keeper its a position i would like us to strengthen.

Im not often critcal of Everton players, but i just dont rate a lot of Howards performences and think there are many flaws in his game - just my opinion like. He and Heitinga at centreback for me are very overatted, not that that they are dire or are without some talent but my opinion is that a lot of our support over rate them - Johnny has huge potential though.
feel the same about Howard he never commands his area, needs to be a lot more decisive, and for god sake hold on to the ball instead of pushing the ball back out when making a save in the area.
johnny needs a bit of time to settle in ,bit like a graverson at the back sometimes looking mad isnt all the game is about ,he gets pulled out of position to easy at the moment but that will gome with games hopefully
 
I seen him drop the ball at John o Shea,s feet when we were 2-0 up against utd and wondered, how he managed to pull that off! The inevitable capitulation followed.

I remember this well.
Thing is, until that 'Rob Green Moment' he looked solid enough and I didn't think they would score all day long. And with Phil putting one in his own net , it was a bad half hour that day and we have had plenty of those since!
On the FM, Turner becomes one of the best in the world!
He will be worth another chance one day I'm sure.
 
feel the same about Howard he never commands his area, needs to be a lot more decisive, and for god sake hold on to the ball instead of pushing the ball back out when making a save in the area.
johnny needs a bit of time to settle in ,bit like a graverson at the back sometimes looking mad isnt all the game is about ,he gets pulled out of position to easy at the moment but that will gome with games hopefully

Bingo!
 
Im just not a fan mate, i think hes a good average keeper its a position i would like us to strengthen.

Im not often critcal of Everton players, but i just dont rate a lot of Howards performences and think there are many flaws in his game - just my opinion like. He and Heitinga at centreback for me are very overatted, not that that they are dire or are without some talent but my opinion is that a lot of our support over rate them - Johnny has huge potential though.

On Howard have to agree, in my book not half as good as Nev or even Gordo. In the PL I would only place him just above half way in the rankings of goalies. However at the moment on displays he is the best we have and I do not think Moyes will give Mucha, mucho chances.

On Heittinga for me did not convince in the World Cup and as for club performances I am still undecided as to how I would rate him.
 

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