Most heinous British war crime?

[Whistlin' Dixie]

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The last scene in Black Adder Goes Forth, sums up beautifully the senseless loss of millions of men in the First World.
Soldiers really were nothing but cannon fodder and treated as such. Yet no one was ever held to account for this slaughter.

This for me.

Absolutely.

Haig is the biggest war criminal of the lot. He was told and retold, and still didn't deviate from his plan. And he sent poor sods suffering from shell-shock (What today's known as PTSD) to the wall.

Animal.

 

[COYBL25]

Absolutely.

Haig is the biggest war criminal of the lot. He was told and retold, and still didn't deviate from his plan. And he sent poor sods suffering from shell-shock (What today's known as PTSD) to the wall.

Animal.

But yet feted as a great general.

I can't watch that last episode as its so horrendously sad and stays with you for a long time after.

Brilliant tv, but horrendous to watch as the fear of the men as they line up to get mowed down the moment they're out of the trench is palpable.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

But yet feted as a great general.

I can't watch that last episode as its so horrendously sad and stays with you for a long time after.

Brilliant tv, but horrendous to watch as the fear of the men as they line up to get mowed down the moment they're out of the trench is palpable.

Aye. Poignant.

Add Gen Ian Hamilton to Haig - as well as Churchill - for the complete balls-up in the dardanelles.

 

[COYBL25]

Aye. Poignant.

Add Gen Ian Hamilton to Haig - as well as Churchill - for the complete balls-up in the dardanelles.

And Churchill for bending over to the Yanks and letting Stalin keep hold of all the Eastern Bloc countries after World War 2.

He knew what Stalin would do, but went along with the Yanks, who'd been duped by Stalin.

 

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Not a war crime per se but exporting Piers Morgan is up there

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

And Churchill for bending over to the Yanks and letting Stalin keep hold of all the Eastern Bloc countries after World War 2.

He knew what Stalin would do, but went along with the Yanks, who'd been duped by Stalin.

The myth that is churchill - who also repatriated the poles and czechs, knowing full well of what the russians were going to do to a lot of them.

Who sent the black & tans into Ireland, and who wanted the army to open fire on the public during the general strike.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Not a war crime per se but exporting Piers Morgan is up there

Taking him back was a crime against humanity, sense and decency.

 

[Tubey]

View attachment 29029

The last scene in Black Adder Goes Forth, sums up beautifully the senseless loss of millions of men in the First World.
Soldiers really were nothing but cannon fodder and treated as such. Yet no one was ever held to account for this slaughter.

This for me.

They were not.

But I can't be bothered going into it further. Needless to say, they died for something, and their deaths due to a myriad of circumstances were unavoidable and necessary.

 

[Boss_Blue]

...their deaths due to a myriad of circumstances were unavoidable and necessary.

LOL wut?

 

[Tubey]

LOL wut?

They died in a war where defensive technology outpaced offensive warmaking, resulting in the Race to the Sea and entrenched warfare, where only consistent brute force thrown at each side resulted in a stalemate. Without their sacrifice, Wilhelmine Germany would have conquered Europe and we would have had a considerably more dangerous and comparatively advanced Germany dominating Europe and invading Britain when compared to the threat we faced in WW2.

People too often deride WW1 as unnecessary. It was not. Wilhelm constructed war for the sole purpose of dominating Europe with an empire. There was no difference between him and Hitler beyond the anti-semitism and racial motives for the latter.

Although unfortunately biased, Max Hastings' documentary called 'The Necessary War' is by and large factual. I'd recommend giving it a watch. The sacrifices were for a good cause, and while mistakes by Generals occurred, it wasn't because of some madman tendency to throw away lives; it was simply because they didn't have the technology or experience to do anything different.

 

[Paul w]

They were not.

But I can't be bothered going into it further. Needless to say, they died for something, and their deaths due to a myriad of circumstances were unavoidable and necessary.

necessary,thats obscene.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

They were not.

But I can't be bothered going into it further. Needless to say, they died for something, and their deaths due to a myriad of circumstances were unavoidable and necessary.

I'd have thought their deaths unavoidable due to being continually ordered to run over 500m of open land while in the sights of several machine-gun nests....Even after the high command knew that the creeping barrage was a non-starter after the first few assaults.

But that's me.

Necessary....yeah, alright.

 

[Tubey]

necessary,thats obscene.

Their deaths preserved the way of life we enjoy now, just as those in WW2 did. That's why I'm very thankful that nuclear stalemate has resulted in no such conflict again, so that so many young lives aren't lost, no matter how just the cause.

I'll always maintain that to demean the sacrifice of those in WW1 as "unnecessary" does them a massive disservice and displays a total lack of understanding of the political and technological situation during that age.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Which war was that in........

The one we waged against the Irish for a rather long time like.

 

[Boss_Blue]

They died in a war where defensive technology outpaced offensive warmaking, resulting in the Race to the Sea and entrenched warfare, where only consistent brute force thrown at each side resulted in a stalemate. Without their sacrifice, Wilhelmine Germany would have conquered Europe and we would have had a considerably more dangerous and comparatively advanced Germany dominating Europe and invading Britain when compared to the threat we faced in WW2.

People too often deride WW1 as unnecessary. It was not. Wilhelm constructed war for the sole purpose of dominating Europe with an empire. There was no difference between him and Hitler beyond the anti-semitism and racial motives for the latter.

Although unfortunately biased, Max Hastings' documentary called 'The Necessary War' is by and large factual. I'd recommend giving it a watch. The sacrifices were for a good cause, and while mistakes by Generals occurred, it wasn't because of some madman tendency to throw away lives; it was simply because they didn't have the technology or experience to do anything different.

No lad.