2017/18 Morgan Schneiderlin

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DanEFC92 said:
Cor he loves a back pass
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His passing was incredibly limited during his stint with us. The problem was that when we start him, we also had to start someone like carrick or schweinsteiger for the playmking part of the midfield duties. However he also wasn’t all that great in most part of defending other than Man marking which for united, isn’t something you had to on a regular basis like Southampton. His tackling interceptions and all weren’t bad but nothing like what you would expect from his Southampton stint. I had hoped he would turn out to be for us what matic turned out for Chelsea. Now it turns out matic has come to us for that job(at least so far)

How has he been overall for you guys?
 

Zlatbro said:
His passing was incredibly limited during his stint with us. The problem was that when we start him, we also had to start someone like carrick or schweinsteiger for the playmking part of the midfield duties. However he also wasn’t all that great in most part of defending other than Man marking which for united, isn’t something you had to on a regular basis like Southampton. His tackling interceptions and all weren’t bad but nothing like what you would expect from his Southampton stint. I had hoped he would turn out to be for us what matic turned out for Chelsea. Now it turns out matic has come to us for that job(at least so far)

How has he been overall for you guys?
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Sound last season, absolutely woeful this season
 
Zlatbro said:
His passing was incredibly limited during his stint with us. The problem was that when we start him, we also had to start someone like carrick or schweinsteiger for the playmking part of the midfield duties. However he also wasn’t all that great in most part of defending other than Man marking which for united, isn’t something you had to on a regular basis like Southampton. His tackling interceptions and all weren’t bad but nothing like what you would expect from his Southampton stint. I had hoped he would turn out to be for us what matic turned out for Chelsea. Now it turns out matic has come to us for that job(at least so far)

How has he been overall for you guys?
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Hiya mate, how have you been? How's the weather in Bahrain today?

Do you lot consider Carrick a "playmaker" I always assumed he played a very similar role to Schneiderlin with a bit more quality on the ball.
 
Just watching last night back with my old man as he missed it, no idea why I'm doing this to myself but there we go. 62 minutes in, at 1-1, Holgate intercepts the ball and legs it upfield, ends up being on the shoulder of their last defender.

At no point does Schneiderlin even turn his head and think about filling in. He actually jogs further forward to trot round on the halfway line despite the fact Holgate runs right past his eyeline. 10 seconds later they lump the ball upfield and fortunately it drops right on Kenny's head, or we'd have a 3 on 3 situation at the back.

Is this fella just thick? Lazy? Has he been told not to move from the centre circle? I always thought of him as an intelligent player but now I'm not so sure.

I think that's symptomatic of our problems. We've got 7 or 8 players every week jogging round like zombies, not thinking about the game needs or considering how they can help each other. Spurs came to Goodison the other week and looked like the most well drilled army you've ever seen. Our holding midfielder can't even think about filling in at centre back while our centre back is virtually in the opposition box.

Nothing came of it and it's not something you notice often, but I guarantee you wouldn't get that at United, Chelsea or Spurs. The differences aren't always wondergoals and mazy runs. When we can't get the simple stuff right what chance is there?
 

Efcjake said:
Hiya mate, how have you been? How's the weather in Bahrain today?

Do you lot consider Carrick a "playmaker" I always assumed he played a very similar role to Schneiderlin with a bit more quality on the ball.
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Thanks man. I’m good. Hope you are good too

Carrick has been very good as a Deep Lying Playmaker but with positioning sense to defend well. Basically a player similar to busquets. His weakness though is pace as he is unlikely to win any races. He has a wide range of passing ability and even now, can be class in games.

Schneiderlin (from his Southampton days) is less of a playmaker and more of a pure DM.
 

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