2017/18 Morgan Schneiderlin

[Nymzee]

I think it does really especially when you've been an expensive one.

You deserve a run when you're playing well. Ergo Davies, DCL etc. should be in and Klaassen and Morgan might be bench material. It's a form game not a price tag game.

 

[Kev The Rat]

You deserve a run when you're playing well. Ergo Davies, DCL etc. should be in and Klaassen and Morgan might be bench material. It's a form game not a price tag game.

By a run I mean 10-12 games. Klaasen has had 1 league game so far. Morgan has had half a season of doing not very much.

 

[Nymzee]

By a run I mean 10-12 games. Klaasen has had 1 league game so far.

That's over a quarter of a season. If we're going by your logical let's stick Niasse up front. He was expensive and hasn't had a prolonged run out yet

 

[mill]

Absolute Rolls Royce of a player. If you want him out of the side... well... football isn't for you.

This.

Also, I wish everyone would get out of the mentality of 'starting 11'. It's such an antiquated view and doesn't translate to the modern game.

It's horses for courses.

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

Schneiderlin and Gueye are Walsh's Drinkwater and Kante 2.0, think they have the potential to be a very good pairing for us

 

[Brendan Janus]

Drinkwater is a yard dog !!

 

[flibbyflob]

Think Morgan needs games, seems off the pace compared to last season but dropping him probably won't help.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

By a run I mean 10-12 games. Klaasen has had 1 league game so far. Morgan has had half a season of doing not very much.

What? He was great in that holding role from the day he joined last season. He's a quality player, reads the game well, times his tackles well, always uses the ball well.

 

[tim cahill]

Morgan has had half a season of doing not very much.

Check our results with him in the side vs our results without him.

 

[Kev The Rat]

That's over a quarter of a season. If we're going by your logical let's stick Niasse up front. He was expensive and hasn't had a prolonged run out yet

I don't think we can put klaasen on the niasse level

 

[Saint Domingo]

People seriously knocking Schneiderlin? What's our record with him in the side? Ridiculous. The amount of fawning Barry and McCarthy received after seasons of dross yet Morgs has a quiet pre season and the knives are out.

 

[Steve Holt]

I don't think we can put klaasen on the niasse level

Yet

 

[Barnfred 55]

Who else drops out for you? Schneiderlin for Davies, but who does Sigurdsson replace?

The forward and midfield set up this season is going to be very interesting, especially once we bring in our new target man. There is now also the added possibility that Barkley's injury may scupper his plans for a move away this summer. What we will be left with is depth and options that we've never had before. Our season revolves around how Koeman manages those options.

He basically has a couple of choices. He can decide on a formation and a preferred line up and stick to this regardless of who we are playing. Mixing up the personnel every now and then to dependent on form/injuries. Very much the way, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and probably Spurs operate. Or he can change the formation/tactics/personnel to suit the team we're playing.

Personally I would prefer he went for the latter. I don't think our playing staff is strong enough to just go head to head with the top teams. There are going to be times when we don't need to play 2 holding midfielders so we can put an extra attack minded player on the pitch from the off. I don't want to see both Rooney and Siggy on the pitch together all the time as I think they are both too similar. Probably OK against teams that park the bus but otherwise I would rotate them. The likes of Klaassen is also ideal against teams that pack their defences, but no way would I play him if our tactics are going to be counter attacking. There are going to be games where we need to fill the midfield with legs, such as the next 4 games coming up. I'd start with Schneids, Gana and Davies in all those games.

Hopefully the new players won't take long to settle in and Koeman opts for finding the right balance rather than trying to fit all our best players (or most expensive players) into the same team.

 

[ad4amt]

looks like we have our scapegoat for the season, surprised it's Morgs

 

[Deckard2049]

The forward and midfield set up this season is going to be very interesting, especially once we bring in our new target man. There is now also the added possibility that Barkley's injury may scupper his plans for a move away this summer. What we will be left with is depth and options that we've never had before. Our season revolves around how Koeman manages those options.

He basically has a couple of choices. He can decide on a formation and a preferred line up and stick to this regardless of who we are playing. Mixing up the personnel every now and then to dependent on form/injuries. Very much the way, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and probably Spurs operate. Or he can change the formation/tactics/personnel to suit the team we're playing.

Personally I would prefer he went for the latter. I don't think our playing staff is strong enough to just go head to head with the top teams. There are going to be times when we don't need to play 2 holding midfielders so we can put an extra attack minded player on the pitch from the off. I don't want to see both Rooney and Siggy on the pitch together all the time as I think they are both too similar. Probably OK against teams that park the bus but otherwise I would rotate them. The likes of Klaassen is also ideal against teams that pack their defences, but no way would I play him if our tactics are going to be counter attacking. There are going to be games where we need to fill the midfield with legs, such as the next 4 games coming up. I'd start with Schneids, Gana and Davies in all those games.

Hopefully the new players won't take long to settle in and Koeman opts for finding the right balance rather than trying to fit all our best players (or most expensive players) into the same team.

Completely agree with you about the selection against the other top teams. I'm a little concerned about our set up against the lesser teams so far this season, a little too cautious for me. But I'm willing to give Koeman the benefit of the doubt as qualifying for Europe is incredibly important and he obviously doesn't want to balls that up. The big talk this summer has been about replacing lukaku goals by spreading them around. For me we don't quite have the personnel right now- if lukaku was here I'd go out on a limb and say we'd have beat stoke by more than one goal comfortably.

Something else to consider is that perhaps Koeman isn't totally happy with the defensive personnel, hence the extra protection by playing both Gana and Schneiderlin when the majority seem to think we don't need them. Especially with three at the back. Keane is obviously first choice, but after that would anyone be happy with seeing one of just jags or Williams. I think I know who opposition teams would be targeting and playing off in that scenario. Hopefully we get another good centre half in to allow us more chance for variation in formation.