Transfer Rumour Morgan Gibbs-White

[matty1878]

You’re thinking of Kieran Gibbs the 33 year old left back at West Brom Matty, time for bed.

that’s it!!!!!!lol ! thankyou mike

 

[BlueStevie35]

did he once play for arsenal or have i missed my meds?

No he didn’t Matty, he came through the Wolves academy

 

[davids]

Foreign players have to adapt - takes time and some don't ever (a lot don't in fact), pace of the game is also hugely different - Allan looks brilliant in Italy, and too slow here, same with Gomes just can't play in this league, look at some of the huge money transfers from France lately - Chelsea, Arsenal etc where they just busted out msssively.

The idea that there's way more value for money abroad often doesn't hold water.

This lad has over 60 top flight games already, and in a near promotion side was their standout player - always a big sign of quality.

Is he worth 25-30m - probably not right now, but he's a better risk than buying two vlasics hoping one will succeed

It's the Championship,he's as much a risk in the Prem as any French or Dutch player of the same age. Fulham have just bought a Portuguese international, CL experienced player cheaper.

 

[matty1878]

Our position is quite strong too, as we move towards the end of the window, and if he hasnt moved, it will strengthen us.

we can’t be risking waiting for the window to close with the state of this squad

we have to get signings mate like it’s paramount positions

it’s a joke we’re so slow

 

[matty1878]

No he didn’t Matty, he came through the Wolves academy

ye mike said but cheers mate

 

[catcherintherye]

we can’t be risking waiting for the window to close with the state of this squad

we have to get signings mate like it’s paramount positions

it’s a joke we’re so slow

As part of a negotiation we probably have to take things late.

 

[matty1878]

As part of a negotiation we probably have to take things late.

it’s risky tho, we don’t have a good enough 11

as it is

we then chance not getting who we want

if you know the players you want you sign them

 

[Inchy226]

Theres no need to start calling people a moron mate, just because I'm taking the time to discuss/correct you.

13th and 10th are going backwards relative to 7th isnt it? You can call me a moron all you like, but it doesnt change that fact I'm afraid.

And we also went backwards quite sharply last season. Fortunately we have changed the manager and DOF who oversaw that, and have a different approach now.

I agree with your reasoning, but would add, he may want to play with one of the greatest England and PL midfielders of all time. He may also want to come and play for a far bigger club than Wolves. So theres plenty of reasons. It seems hes interested.

When you come out with reasoning such as going from 13th to 10th is going backwards and that a player is so much better than another because he's scored three more goals, then I'm naturally going to question who I'm arguing with.

And then you come out with such claptrap as "play with one of the greatest England and PL midfielders of all time." Frank doesn't play anymore in case you haven't noticed and MGW's actually been playing with one of Portugal's finest.

And finally, if you think Everton are bigger than Wolves thesedays, you need a wake up call. They've gone past us in the league and they've just done so financially. We're getting left behind because of attitudes like yours that are stuck in the relics.

 

[Carlito]

My opinion is £25m and add-ons to £30m will get it done and it's a fair deal all round in terms of valuation IMO, although I'd prefer him to sign a new contract with us.

I've seen people make comparisons to Maddison, Bowen, etc when discussing a fee, but the difference is Gibbs-White has already shown that he can't get a sniff at Premier League team.

 

[Inchy226]

It's probably a combination.

The fall-out with the girlfriend and a section of the support wasn't good but obviously don't know the impact. Whether it means a lot or not, all the 'Wolves player' and that [Poor language removed] is no longer in his social media bios. Certainly get the impression he's not bothered and the contracts on the table which he hasn't signed! He also turned down the chance to come back in January.

I think he may feel a fresh start from Wolves unfortunately but that's just my opinion but tbf I wouldn't say he'd definitely pick you over Palace or Forest. Whilst you're the bigger club of the three, you could argue Palace are the best and he has a connection with Steve Cooper at Forest.

Then, importantly, the money. If I'm his agent and Wolves value MGW at £30m then you're going in and asking for a contract that reflects that. Realistically, £30m players are on a fair whack and our top earners are believed to be around the £100,000 a week mark.

I can't imagine we offer anywhere near that, whereas as a big signing for you I presume you would pay big.

Thanks. So basically we're taking another gamble but this time with someone who will at least have some resale value when the time comes.
Next question... what's he like when the team is struggling or has to deliver? Is he the kind to stand up and be counted or does he squirm away?

 

[Deco]

Really hope we can get this done. He’s got talent and it’s a wise investment for us if it ends up around £25m.

 

[Inchy226]

did he once play for arsenal or have i missed my meds?

That was Alan Ball. Ginger head.

 

[Nymzee]

So much fume for a player we probs won't even sign. Never change, Blues.

 

[Inchy226]

You can ask, but it doesnt mean people will want to pay.

It usually does with us.

 

[Bluestar]

Gutted about this as a Wolves fan.

I know the valuation seems a lot but it's pretty fair in the modern game. Maddison went for £20m+ a few years ago and MGW has the same stats as him and was the same age. Benrahma cost £25-30m as well, so that's the going rate for top Championship players, which MGW is proven to be.

However, unlike Norwich and Brentford in those instances, we're a Premier League club so that should add a bit more to his value. So, I think £30m is a fair price even if I understand why you would be sceptical.

If he won't sign a new deal we'd have to sell but I'd still be disappointed. We are in a position where we have to sell to buy generally, so letting him go into his final year of his deal makes no sense from our perspective.

In terms of his ability, he's class. He's got so much talent, finds space well, picks a pass and has added goals to his game.

He was unhappy with us that we recalled him from a loan spell with Swansea two seasons ago in January and didn't play him on his return, which was totally valid. Nuno didn't really fancy him for some reason and he was recalled in a bit of a panic with little thinking about his development

Under Lage we hoped he would be key but whilst he was very good in pre-season he was loaned out and that was believed to have annoyed him as well.

There were also issues between him and the fans. He was pictured at a party when lockdown was on with all these divs you get from Love Island or whatever and it didn't go down well, especially at that time. Certainly came across as flash and many of our fans would stupidly lay into his girlfriend on social media. Was all a bit nasty and may have contributed to him not wanting to be here.

People weren't too bothered that he went to Sheffield United and if we do sell him for £25-30m I guarantee you will read many Wolves fans say we've robbed you, you've overpaid etc. but I really don't believe that's the case.

I watch more Championship football than most, so that will influence their opinion. MGW hasn't actually done much for Wolves in his career to date but his quality with Sheffield United was clear to see.

He also played in the 3-4-3/3-5-2 for the Blades, so it left us a bit annoyed that we didn't do more to get him in our team.

The penny seems to have really dropped with him the last 12 months. He can still be a bit petulant at times when I've seen him but he was levels above the Championship and I would back him to go on to play for England the way he has improved.

Basically, this loan was sink or swim and he delivered.

Perhaps the only negative I could see is that there will be a lot of pressure on MGW if he moves to you if he's the big signing and whilst he's not a direct Richarlison replacement, there will be an expectancy for him to do well and maybe he wouldn't get eased in as he might at a Palace, Forest etc.

An insightful post. Really interesting.