Transfer Rumour Morgan Gibbs-White

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catcherintherye said:
Well I'm just including the seasons both have had in the top flight. Gordon is over a year younger too so he may break out again.

I'm not knocking Gibbs, but it's easy to see why, objectively, Gordon is seen as a lot more valuable. Obviously if people watch both more closely, they can perhaps make a case that theh are equal.

I like MGW, but would want more for Gordon than what we paid for him. Gordon is one of the best young players in the league.
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Yeah I totally agree. Gordon is one of the most exciting young players in the league. And I know we biased but it's been reflected in the media too
 

catcherintherye said:
Ok mate. He could do, but he hasnt yet.

Theres no tinted glasses to observe what has happened mate.

For the record I dont think Gordon will be the next Harry Kane, but he looks a very special talent to me. One of the top young players in the country for sure. Maybe Gibbs White is too, if we can get him, I certainly hope so!
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I don't think either are "very special talents." A very special talent would be someone like Rooney, Gazza or even Mount not blokes like MGW and Gordon.

However, you go on thinking a bloke who has 3 goals more than another is the bees knees. There was a time when we'd be looking at better quality players than this, as it is, we're now looking at Wolves reserves. Illustrating my point of how far we have fallen through years of mismanagement.
 
Gutted about this as a Wolves fan.

I know the valuation seems a lot but it's pretty fair in the modern game. Maddison went for £20m+ a few years ago and MGW has the same stats as him and was the same age. Benrahma cost £25-30m as well, so that's the going rate for top Championship players, which MGW is proven to be.

However, unlike Norwich and Brentford in those instances, we're a Premier League club so that should add a bit more to his value. So, I think £30m is a fair price even if I understand why you would be sceptical.

If he won't sign a new deal we'd have to sell but I'd still be disappointed. We are in a position where we have to sell to buy generally, so letting him go into his final year of his deal makes no sense from our perspective.

In terms of his ability, he's class. He's got so much talent, finds space well, picks a pass and has added goals to his game.

He was unhappy with us that we recalled him from a loan spell with Swansea two seasons ago in January and didn't play him on his return, which was totally valid. Nuno didn't really fancy him for some reason and he was recalled in a bit of a panic with little thinking about his development

Under Lage we hoped he would be key but whilst he was very good in pre-season he was loaned out and that was believed to have annoyed him as well.

There were also issues between him and the fans. He was pictured at a party when lockdown was on with all these divs you get from Love Island or whatever and it didn't go down well, especially at that time. Certainly came across as flash and many of our fans would stupidly lay into his girlfriend on social media. Was all a bit nasty and may have contributed to him not wanting to be here.

People weren't too bothered that he went to Sheffield United and if we do sell him for £25-30m I guarantee you will read many Wolves fans say we've robbed you, you've overpaid etc. but I really don't believe that's the case.

I watch more Championship football than most, so that will influence their opinion. MGW hasn't actually done much for Wolves in his career to date but his quality with Sheffield United was clear to see.

He also played in the 3-4-3/3-5-2 for the Blades, so it left us a bit annoyed that we didn't do more to get him in our team.

The penny seems to have really dropped with him the last 12 months. He can still be a bit petulant at times when I've seen him but he was levels above the Championship and I would back him to go on to play for England the way he has improved.

Basically, this loan was sink or swim and he delivered.

Perhaps the only negative I could see is that there will be a lot of pressure on MGW if he moves to you if he's the big signing and whilst he's not a direct Richarlison replacement, there will be an expectancy for him to do well and maybe he wouldn't get eased in as he might at a Palace, Forest etc.
 
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Inchy226 said:
I don't think either are "very special talents." A very special talent would be someone like Rooney, Gazza or even Mount not blokes like MGW and Gordon.

However, you go on thinking a bloke who has 3 goals more than another is the bees knees. There was a time when we'd be looking at better quality players than this, as it is, we're now looking at Wolves reserves. Illustrating my point of how far we have fallen through years of mismanagement.
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I think Gordon has enormous talent, and shown it in an awful team. Not Gascoigne levels, or Kane levels, but potential to be very good.

I dont know enough about White, but I hope he can be very good too.

In all honesty mate, I really wouldnt worry about where we are buying from. We have become far too pre-occupied about that, and how we are perceived. It doesnt matter, what matters is how they perform. We signed Southall from Bury, Cahill from Millwall, Arteta from Sociedad reserves, Peinaar from Dortmund reserves.

Maguire and Robertson got relegated with Hull. What matters is the player.
 
wwfc1 said:
Gutted about this as a Wolves fan.

I know the valuation seems a lot but it's pretty fair in the modern game. Maddison went for £20m+ a few years ago and MGW has the same stats as him and was the same age. Benrahma cost £25-30m as well, so that's the going rate for top Championship players, which MGW is proven to be.

However, unlike Norwich and Brentford in those instances, we're a Premier League club so that should add a bit more to his value. So, I think £30m is a fair price even if I understand why you would be sceptical.

If he won't sign a new deal we'd have to sell but I'd still be disappointed but that's the only reason he would go. We are in a position where we have to sell to buy generally, so letting him go into his final year of his deal makes no sense from our perspective.

In terms of his ability, he's class. He's got so much talent, finds space well, picks a pass and has added goals to his game.

He was unhappy with us that we recalled him from a loan spell with Swansea two seasons ago in January and didn't play him on his return, which was totally valid. Nuno didn't really fancy him for some reason and he was recalled in a bit of a panic with little thinking about his development

Under Lage we hoped he would be key but whilst he was very good in pre-season he was loaned out and that was believed to have annoyed him as well.

There were also issues between him and the fans. He was pictured at a party when lockdown was on with all these divs you get from Love Island or whatever and it didn't go down well, especially at that time. Certainly came across as flash and many of our fans would stupidly lay into his girlfriend on social media. Was all a bit nasty and may have contributed to him not wanting to be here.

People weren't too bothered that he went to Sheffield United and if we do sell him for £25-30m I guarantee you will read many Wolves fans say we've robbed you, you've overpaid etc. but I really don't believe that's the case.

I watch more Championship football than most, so that will influence their opinion. MGW hasn't actually done much for Wolves in his career to date but his quality with Sheffield United was clear to see.

He also played in the 3-4-3/3-5-2 for the Blades, so it left us a bit annoyed that we didn't do more to get him in our team.

The penny seems to have really dropped with him the last 12 months. He can still be a bit petulant at times when I've seen him but he was levels above the Championship and I would back him to go on to play for England the way he has improved.

Perhaps the only negative I could see is that there will be a lot of pressure on MGW if he moves to you if he's the big signing and whilst he's not a direct Richarlison replacement, there will be an expectancy for him to do well and maybe he wouldn't get eased in as he might at a Palace, Forest etc.
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Thanks for a very considered post mate.

He sounds good, and if we could get a really talented lad from Wolves it would be a bit of a coup, given where we are at. However, he will be working with one of Englands best ever midfielders being bought by Wolves former DOF and playing for Lampard who likes to blood young players. So it would be a gokd step in the right direction for us.

No idea if a deal can be done.
 

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