2019/20 Michael Keane

[Lanolin]

He’s not a current England international though.

Of course Mike. It obviously should have read 'England international up until one game ago'. Glad we got that incredibly important distinction out of the way, what with it completely changing the entire meaning of the post and everything.

 

[Billy Dean]

I'd sooner we went out there with 10 men that start Keane.

 

[MikeH72]

Of course Mike. It obviously should have read 'England international up until one game ago'. Glad we got that incredibly important distinction out of the way, what with it completely changing the entire meaning of the post and everything.

He’s been dropped from the squad and isn’t getting back in it ever in his career.

 

[Baines' left foot]

He’s been dropped from the squad and isn’t getting back in it ever in his career.

Harsh. Harsh but fair.

 

[MikeH72]

Harsh. Harsh but fair.

It’s true though isn’t he. He will retire on 10 England caps, remembered alongside the likes of Carlton Cole and Bobby Zamora.

 

[Lanolin]

He’s been dropped from the squad and isn’t getting back in it ever in his career.

Still not sure of the relevance to the point, but I would imagine you're right.

 

[blueblue]

It is difficult to know what will happen to him in the summer.
I think the manager will be happy to keep him as part of a group of four or five central defenders.

But, Keane may not be satisfied to be just a member of a squad and may want to play football every week.
It may then come down to the fee. I think Everton will be interested in selling some players and raising funds just for FFP reasons alone.

 

[Toffeelover]

@Toffeelover Not sure who we will go for cb wise but I think it will be a player who is more mobile than Keane. Mina isn't the most agile let's be honest but he's got a bit more about him compared to Keane.

I agree, bit if possible would you want Zouma back? Gor to be some young vewry promosing CBs out there somewhere. Down to Brands to get looking.

 

[Toffeelover]

Similarly Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin also need to be moved on, but we face the same problem.

Except if these go we might start winning more games.

 

[Toffeelover]

Oh yeah, of course they want to keep him! I don't mean they wanted rid, that would make no sense at all.

They clearly think he's good, I'm talking about just how good though. As far as i'm aware we weren't batting off interest from Leicester and Wolves, nevermind Bayern, Barcelona and Real Madrid, in order to get him to sign a contract. The only PL team I saw mentioned was Newcastle, which is an obvious one. That suggests he isn't necessarily seen in football circles as likely to be a superstar in the next 12 months. The length of contract is an indicator too. There doesn't appear to have been any great rush to tie him to a long term contract as soon as we could, which is what usually happens when you're totally convinced on a player. All the reports when he signed the contract also suggested he was going to be loaned again next season; there was a lot of talk about them giving him a development map that he was happy with, rather than assurances that he would be getting game time.

None of that is a reflection of his long term prospects. I'm not saying they don't think he'll ever be really good, just that the indications are that they may be slightly hedging their bets in the short term. Holgate is just starting to come good now at 23, and even he can still look a bit of a defensive novice at times. Expecting a 20 year old to come in and be able to play centre half at the top level is a big ask I think. If he's capable of doing it then we should get him tied down long term ASAP, because that would suggest he's potentially top class.

What ages were Labone, Mountfield, Ratclffe when they came good?

 

[Lanolin]

What ages were Labone, Mountfield, Ratclffe when they came good?

All before my time. My understanding is that Ratcliffe 'came good' when he was about 22/23 after looking a bit ropey as a full back for a couple of years first, and Mountfield came into the side around Christmas 1983, making him 21. So both older than Gibson will be next year.

 

[KaiserEFC]

We won’t sell him next season, no way will we want to be bringing in 2 CB’s and I don’t think Gibson or anyone is ready yet. I think the only thing that might change that is if we get a big (20m+) bid in from some panic stricken team late on in the window

 

[maccavennie]

I agree, bit if possible would you want Zouma back? Gor to be some young vewry promosing CBs out there somewhere. Down to Brands to get looking.

I think the Zouma ship has sailed and for what they would want (40m I reckon) I think we need to find far cheaper out there if possible

 

[Baines' left foot]

I think the Zouma ship has sailed and for what they would want (40m I reckon) I think we need to find far cheaper out there if possible

He’s decent but not worth what we’d had to pay.

 

[Archie Knox]

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