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[PhilM]

True, which is crazy he wasn’t found guilty but that’s a bit of a side note to the fact Starmer and the CPS originally had tried to avoid opening a case because of conflicting coroners reports really isn’t a good look for a future leader of a supposedly left wing party

It's not. Yet, the CPS have clear guidelines to follow when recommending on charging, and in layman's terms it needs to be above a 50% chance of conviction.

You can openly read the process (it's called the Charging Code), but it's another reason why many sexual assaults etc. don't reach court.

This isn't the police's fault; this isn't a political decision - well not in the mainstay. It simply boils down to meeting the threshold of being in the public interest.

The conflicting views of the pathologist reports meant he rightly or wrongly believed the chance of conviction was below this.

I believe the time taken for his 'managed departure' allowed him to get his 20 in so securing his pension.

No idea about his personal circumstances, but if gross misconduct is proven and the offence is linked to police duties the pension can be forfeited.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It's not. Yet, the CPS have clear guidelines to follow when recommending on charging, and in layman's terms it needs to be above a 50% chance of conviction.

You can openly read the process (it's called the Charging Code), but it's another reason why many sexual assaults etc. don't reach court.

This isn't the police's fault; this isn't a political decision - well not in the mainstay. It simply boils down to meeting the threshold of being in the public interest.


No idea about his personal circumstances, but if gross misconduct is proven and the offence is linked to police duties the pension can be forfeited.

Yet there seems an issue over stripping couzens of his.

 

[PhilM]

Yet there seems an issue over stripping couzens of his.

Not really. His MET pension is gone as signed off by the Home Secretary, and rightly so. The issue is before that he was CNC, which is not a Home Office force.

It's not a 'police pension' in the official sense as it's not under the 1987/2015 schemes and as such the regulations; it's more akin to a private pension.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Not really. His MET pension is gone as signed off by the Home Secretary, and rightly so. The issue is before that he was CNC, which is not a Home Office force.

It's not a 'police pension' in the official sense as it's not under the 1987/2015 schemes and as such the regulations; it's more akin to a private pension.

I'd like you on my quiz team. Gonna work for the Tomlinson evidence.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Yet there seems an issue over stripping couzens of his.

Relatively anecdotal, but my dad has a mate who’s an ex copper and is okay (or at least hides his horrific views well) but apparently when he met the guy’s other ex copper mates my dad found them so repulsively racist, homophobic, and chauvinistic that he didn’t even stay to finish his pint - and my dad wouldn’t leave a good Guinness for hell or high water so it must’ve been bad

 

[COYBL25]

grown adult. It's only me with those terms. adult singular. If my posts are upsetting to you, then ignore me. I'll battle away to keep the likes of 'child Q' and 'Chris Kaba' relevant.

PS, there was no glorying. Another bad take.

Righto

 

[Hackbread]

Its hard not to call them names that dehumanise them when you have never seen them act like humans in real life, and hear horror story after horror story where there's little accountability for their actions.
I have only recently come to terms with the fact that some of them might actually be people

 

[Goat]

Its hard not to call them names that dehumanise them when you have never seen them act like humans in real life, and hear horror story after horror story where there's little accountability for their actions.
I have only recently come to terms with the fact that some of them might actually be people

I have seen plenty of them act like humans in real life.

I dont understand some peoples views on the Police, I can only imagine some of the dealings they have had with them.

Personally, when ive been in the wrong ive been dealt with fairly and when ive needed them, they have been available.

They arent perfect, humans arent perfect, but I will never understand the desire to vilify a whole organisation due to many bad apples.

Anyway, this isnt the thread for this, lets get back to calling them facist pigs and hoping that decent people get killed doing a public service.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Dalian Atkinson. Murdered, by a "decent people get killed doing a public service."

'T'was his own fault, he said he'd drag me to the gates of hell, so I had to kick him in the head and kill him then lie about it.'

 

[Goat]

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Dalian Atkinson. Murdered, by a "decent people get killed doing a public service."

'T'was his own fault, he said he'd drag me to the gates of hell, so I had to kick him in the head and kill him then lie about it.'

Police had responded to a call as Atkinson threatened to kill his father, Ernest. Atkinson's older brother Kenroy said "My brother had lost it. He was in a manic state and depressed – out of his mind and ranting. He had a tube in his shoulder for the dialysis and he had ripped it out and was covered in blood. He got dad by the throat and said he was going to kill him. He told dad he had already killed me, our brother Paul and sister Elaine and he had come for him."


Due to the Police attending only 1 person was injured in this crime.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Police had responded to a call as Atkinson threatened to kill his father, Ernest. Atkinson's older brother Kenroy said "My brother had lost it. He was in a manic state and depressed – out of his mind and ranting. He had a tube in his shoulder for the dialysis and he had ripped it out and was covered in blood. He got dad by the throat and said he was going to kill him. He told dad he had already killed me, our brother Paul and sister Elaine and he had come for him."


Due to the Police attending only 1 person was injured in this crime.

So send em through the nearest asylum and we'll all be done with the problem then....

 

[Hackbread]

I have seen plenty of them act like humans in real life.

I dont understand some peoples views on the Police, I can only imagine some of the dealings they have had with them.

Personally, when ive been in the wrong ive been dealt with fairly and when ive needed them, they have been available.

They arent perfect, humans arent perfect, but I will never understand the desire to vilify a whole organisation due to many bad apples.

Anyway, this isnt the thread for this, lets get back to calling them facist pigs and hoping that decent people get killed doing a public service.

I never said I hoped that, so don't confuse someone else views for mine please.

My views come from a mixture of my own dealings and the experiences of others that I know personally.
Had a couple of positive experiences myself when in wrong and not
But for most part I have only had negative experiences when wrong or not. When I have needed them they haven't helped or in fact made things worse.
And when I have been in the wrong for extremely minor things they have treated me utter contempt. Or when they think I have done something that's minor.

But that doesn't include the sexist, homophobic, racist side of it that I haven't encountered directed at me personally but others I know have. For me the vilification comes from the entire organisation its less about the individuals and the culture and the attitude that comes with it, it stinks alot of the time and sadly overpowers alot of the good intentions some may have.

 

[Goat]

I never said I hoped that, so don't confuse someone else views for mine please.

My views come from a mixture of my own dealings and the experiences of others that I know personally.
Had a couple of positive experiences myself when in wrong and not
But for most part I have only had negative experiences when wrong or not. When I have needed them they haven't helped or in fact made things worse.
And when I have been in the wrong for extremely minor things they have treated me utter contempt. Or when they think I have done something that's minor.

But that doesn't include the sexist, homophobic, racist side of it that I haven't encountered directed at me personally but others I know have. For me the vilification comes from the entire organisation its less about the individuals and the culture and the attitude that comes with it, it stinks alot of the time and sadly overpowers alot of the good intentions some may have.

I mean im not here defending the rotten apples, I just think this idea that they are ALL wrong uns and all deserve labelled with that brush a tad silly.

Im aware you never made those views.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I mean im not here defending the rotten apples, I just think this idea that they are ALL wrong uns and all deserve labelled with that brush a tad silly.

Im aware you never made those views.

Could you pick out a few examples where the good apples have done anything to thwart the bad apples please?

 

[Goat]

Could you pick out a few examples where the good apples have done anything to thwart the bad apples please?

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