would put pele above maradona all day long, did it over a longer period and just a better player in my eyes.
Best at his peak and Cruyff above Zidane
Ronaldo or messi ?
Ronaldo for me, steps up to be counted when it counts
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Best at his peak and Cruyff above Zidane
Ronaldo or messi ?
Ronaldo for me, steps up to be counted when it counts
Lol, like Real weren't Fuentes clients.
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
Truth is you can't really separate them , they are both indisputably great players who have played scintillating football.
It just comes down to personal preferences.
It's definately Messi for me. He plays for the team first and foremost and never gives up . He is also loyal.
Ronaldo plays for himself and himself alone and is a inveterate cheat.
Plus Messi wouldn't allow himself to be kicked out of a game by Phil Neville.
It just comes down to personal preferences.
It's definately Messi for me. He plays for the team first and foremost and never gives up . He is also loyal.
Ronaldo plays for himself and himself alone and is a inveterate cheat.
Plus Messi wouldn't allow himself to be kicked out of a game by Phil Neville.
Should be best of there era really , these two are fresh in the memory, TV, social media all over them.
Game is different , no tackles from behind ect, pitches and sports science making them fitter.
Even the balls have changed, imagine Messi trying to fly passed a defender with a rain sodden Case ball at his feet, anybody old enough to play with one would tell you it was heavy anyway never mind wet and God forbid you headed it especially if it was on the lace,
Today's footballs are like balloons in comparison.
Let's face it none of really know how good the likes of Matthews, puskas ,carrricachia(the Brazilian don't know how you spell it)
Before are time and not enough footage to make a judgement.
Game is different , no tackles from behind ect, pitches and sports science making them fitter.
Even the balls have changed, imagine Messi trying to fly passed a defender with a rain sodden Case ball at his feet, anybody old enough to play with one would tell you it was heavy anyway never mind wet and God forbid you headed it especially if it was on the lace,
Today's footballs are like balloons in comparison.
Let's face it none of really know how good the likes of Matthews, puskas ,carrricachia(the Brazilian don't know how you spell it)
Before are time and not enough footage to make a judgement.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Ronaldo for me is much better. So much talent in this pic
Rook
Player Valuation: £80m
It's also interesting tbh that given how Dave responds in the cycling thread, how he masturbates over a player who cheated with drugs throughout his career.
Well that's a side to Dave that I didn't envisage before lol
To be fair, Phil Neville always kept Ronaldo quiet.Ronaldo for me is much better. So much talent in this pic
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
I think this is a myth personally. Ronaldo plays for the team every time he plays. It just so happens that he is the best part of the team so most of the play goes through him.
Ronaldo would not have accepted that performance last night.
As for loyalty, it is easy to be loyal when you have been at the biggest club in the world your whole career. 3 clubs in a long career is hardly disloyal. Messi also tried to retire from international football already too and he was still in his prime.
I agree that Messi would'nt be kicked out of a game by Neville though as he wouldn't dare try his hand in the premier league...
Papa Shango
Player Valuation: £70m
There is a distinct lack of non-attacking players in this list. I assume its just a list of attacking hierarchy?
Also Graziano Pelle is a useful player like but....
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Ronaldo is obviously the goat and I'd even say he's better than Messi by some distance. He's three years older too but still outperforms his counterpart. He's been able to adapt his game as his career has progressed, yet maintained being the central point of every attack and still has an unbelievable goalscoring record. He is unselfish on the field, and a gentleman off it by all accounts. He might look like a div when he's ripping his shirt off celebrating, but tbh if I had that physique and knew I was that good and adored by millions I'd probably do the same.
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