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Lukaku
Stones
Barkley
Besic
McCarthy
Everyone wants young players to be given an opportunity, then boo them the first time we blink below 10th spot.
No. They are booing the other seven especially the Gk and RM.
Lukaku
Stones
Barkley
Besic
McCarthy
Everyone wants young players to be given an opportunity, then boo them the first time we blink below 10th spot.
As we did all last season under Martinez. And this season in Europe.
Touché just not the league this season
No. They are booing the other seven especially the Gk and RM.
And do we really need the negativity either? There's only a few months left lets get behind the team.2013/14.
Instant feel good factor back at Goodison. 'Boss' moments everywhere. Record Premier League points tally. For the first time in a long time, genuine hope and ambition that we had a manager who could bring some good times to the club - a trophy.
2014/15.
Domestically, a complete write off. Where has it all gone wrong?
Our pre-season effort was pathetic.
Second season syndrome?
Players unable to cope with the Europa League?
Players who played for a transfer/deal last season losing that motivation this season?
No wingers, not adequately replacing Pienaar/Deulofeu?,
Being found out?
Goodison pitch going to the dogs...
The excuses are far and wide.
We've been piss poor this season. Martinez has infuriated even the most patient of fans. Considering the squad, it's a fair argument to suggest we've been worse than any season under Moyes. In fact, points wise, we're comparable to Walter Smith...
BUT, the reality is... we won't get relegated, and a 5 year deal in June tells you he isn't going anywhere just yet.
He'll have another summer. He deserves it based on his first season.
He'll start a new season, having learnt more about Everton this season than ever before. He'll start that season (provided we don't win the Europa...) without any European commitments.
Review the manager in December...
Until then, do we really need to entertain the tedious, premature sacking the manager debate?...
I think it's a given Mirallas will go and given his age and injury record I'm ok with that.I can't be rational towards him if he persists with Tim Howard in goal and either Barkley or Naismith out wide.
Fully agreed that the Martinez in or out polls cement our place as B.A.W.K. but me and him arent talking right now.
Pre season coming up this summer will be under the microscope more than ever before. We also are going to lose a name or two I reckon. The players won't be as patient as the fans.
That apart I reckon he can still turn it around.
Still be disappointed to see him go. Yes he is injury prone, yes he is inconsistent, but on his day he is a threat and a match winner. Sadly there are not enough match winners in our squad. But for whatever reason his heart hasn't been in it this season. But there again that accusation could be levelled at a number of players.I think it's a given Mirallas will go and given his age and injury record I'm ok with that.
That's what it is in my eyes. Just play 2 wingers, can't think of any good team who doesn't play 2 wide players out wide.
Not just that but we need players with more quality than Naismith and McGeady. If we're going to play tika taka and lets be honest the change in tactics is temporary because ultimately Roberto will either succeed in that or leave so we'll need players especially in those positions that aren't wasteful on the ball.That's what it is in my eyes. Just play 2 wingers, can't think of any good team who doesn't play 2 wide players out wide.
Until then, do we really need to entertain the tedious, premature sacking the manager debate?...
He wants to go. He was great for us and I wish him well but the time might be right for all concerned.Still be disappointed to see him go. Yes he is injury prone, yes he is inconsistent, but on his day he is a threat and a match winner. Sadly there are not enough match winners in our squad. But for whatever reason his heart hasn't been in it this season. But there again that accusation could be levelled at a number of players.
McGeady, Lennon, Atsu, Oviedo, and Pienaar are all better than Barkley/Naismith out wide.But we've only got one good winger,,,
McCarthy has too many injury concerns for teams to meet our valuation. Coleman is the only other one that might go but unless its to Utd I can't see that.Who do you see as the most likely to go? Mirallas and McCarthy?