Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

[chicoazul]

Bobby going to haunt you in your sleep lid; like a sh!t version of the candyman. He's gonna bugger you with his brown shoes

Say "phenomenal" in the mirror three times.

 

[Azza]

Give them credit mate, they did score 1. But what followed sounds familiar at Goodison these days:

This is the biggest issue I have. Wigan wasn't a sinking ship when he arrived, they had actually shown to be quite competent under Jewell and Bruce, so he didnt even have to steady a ship he was brought in to make them better and he never did in the league.

He has no evidence that he can produce and turn things around. They scrapped by in all but one season he was in charge of Wigan.

No obviously were not Wigan, but we're definitely not a Stoke or a West Ham mid table safety team. We're battling with Spurs and Liverpool for European football. We finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 5th, 5th, 6th with Moyes before Martinez come. Moyes what ever your thoughts about him transformed us from a mid table and frankly bad safety team to a competitive hard to beat team.

We needed someone to build and progress on those foundations and Martinez obviously did that last season. But this season has been a disaster, and history shows that Martinez can't handle trouble we at all.

I'm all for giving managers time, I'd hate us to be like Sunderland making joke appointments all the time, but this guy just hasn't been able to maintain that character and attitude. The team is completely void of confidence and full of naivety which stems from Martinez.

He doesn't have the bottle to drop players and he is so blinkered to his ways he is just dragging us down big time.

 

[sageyefc]

Say "phenomenal" in the mirror three times.

Is that like when you whisper 'chicos mar' three times and she appears and give you a chew

 

[eddy]

This is the biggest issue I have. Wigan wasn't a sinking ship when he arrived, they had actually shown to be quite competent under Jewell and Bruce, so he didnt even have to steady a ship he was brought in to make them better and he never did in the league.

He has no evidence that he can produce and turn things around. They scrapped by in all but one season he was in charge of Wigan.

No obviously were not Wigan, but we're definitely not a Stoke or a West Ham mid table safety team. We're battling with Spurs and Liverpool for European football. We finished 6th, 7th, 7th, 8th, 5th, 5th, 6th with Moyes before Martinez come. Moyes what ever your thoughts about him transformed us from a mid table and frankly bad safety team to a competitive hard to beat team.

We needed someone to build and progress on those foundations and Martinez obviously did that last season. But this season has been a disaster, and history shows that Martinez can't handle trouble we at all.

I'm all for giving managers time, I'd hate us to be like Sunderland making joke appointments all the time, but this guy just hasn't been able to maintain that character and attitude. The team is completely void of confidence and full of naivety which stems from Martinez.

He doesn't have the bottle to drop players and he is so blinkered to his ways he is just dragging us down big time.

agreed he needs to do one asap really!

 

[Tree13]

I have this view, but I have the same concerns I did prior his appointment as manager regarding his ability in the transfer market.

Since arriving at Everton, Roberto Martinez has signed the following;

Kone
Alcaraz
Robles
McCarthy
McGeady
Stanek
Byrne
Barry
Besic
Lukaku
Galloway
Eto'o

Lukaku/McCarthy - Both good investments but paid a premium/
Besic - A world cup buy, novelty aside, a lot to prove.

The rest? Well....

Spot on.

This is why Martinez should be sacked as soon as we are mathematically safe from relegation. I have zero faith that he will use the summer transfer window effectively, because his body of work thus far STRONGLY suggests that he only gets the big-money transfers right.

 

[blue4eva77]

I have edited your post a little.

But as a manager at some point you simply have to be accountable for yourself and your own doing. You can only point the finger at others for so long

I never said the manager is untouchable here.

 

[Tree13]

Kone - proven to be a horrendous signing
Alcaraz - proven to be a horrendous signing
Robles - not given a chance, unfairly treated after playing well
McCarthy - not as good/effective as some make out
McGeady - proven to be a horrendous signing
Stanek - no idea who he is
Byrne - no idea who he is
Barry - good on loan, awful once he got his contract
Besic - looks decent, fairly low risk signing, could turn out good
Lukaku - good signing, shouldn't lose any money if and when we sell
Galloway - good one for the future
Eto'o - proven to be a horrendous signing

All in all, woeful in the transfer market.

Agree with all of that bar Eto'o - Martinez failed to use him effectively.

 

[Toffeelover]

I never said the manager is untouchable here.

I know mate, but just wished to post that the same could be said of the manager but in my book even more so than the players. I also think we want the same thing with regards to our club.

 

[ijjysmith]

I never said the manager is untouchable here.

He probably is though.

 

[scorgie95]

WHAT. ON . EARTH. ARE. YOU. SMOKING?

Alcaraz was DIRECTLY responsible for three goals. Directly his specific fault. For the others you named to have been just as bad, we would have to have conceded twelve more goals. Now I'm not saying that the rest of the defence played well, but Alcaraz stood out by some distinct margin as being utterly, utterly unfit to wear the shirt.

The fact his dealing of the Distin situation has beeen particularly [Poor language removed] is another reason to go.

 

[scorgie95]

Can we make phenomonal a banned word?????

 

[ijjysmith]

The fact his dealing of the Distin situation has beeen particularly [Poor language removed] is another reason to go.

Not sure how we can know either way how his handling of Distin has been good or bad.

 

[daz4matty]

He probably is though.

Thats a massive worry.

 

[MikeH72]

He won't sack him period

Either he resigns or he stays manager

Relegation would be the only way for him to get sacked

 

[ElGato]

Can we make phenomonal a banned word?????

100% this.