Martinez Interview

[Zatara]

If he has a 2 season or even an 18month plan now to recycle the deadwood and bring in u21s or similar then it may be worth writing off the season...

We lose money short term in placing but the team longer term could be class.

Butland / Gomez / Deulofeu means longer term...he needs to keep playing garbutt and get the other kids game time for next season.

I'm not saying abandon the style mate, more get the young lads in now and let the learn the style the hard way. If Browning, Ledson and another young lad come in and make mistakes and we come 12th or so, I genuinely won't mind because I'd be able to see where it was leading to. There would be an obvious vision.

Playing Distin etc to me simply doesn't make sense, as they won't improve.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

You're assuming the young lads are all at a similar level and first team ready. Not sure they are yet. And a team that finishes about 6 places lower than it should isn't a happy environment to be a part of.

Bobby has deffo said that he rates Browning, and Ledson could start coming off the bench/starting against lesser teams. It's the only way for them to learn. I'd rather try that than watch Distin hoof the ball aimlessly upfield or give it away under pressure, just my opinion.

 

[bluemangroup]

Bobby has deffo said that he rates Browning, and Ledson could start coming off the bench/starting against lesser teams. It's the only way for them to learn. I'd rather try that than watch Distin hoof the ball aimlessly upfield or give it away under pressure, just my opinion.

No it isn't.

 

[Zatara]

Even saying to the young lads BEFORE games that they will have 5-10mins at the end would help though.

They get experience and also their enthusiasm should rub off on the other players.

See your point but sometimes young players can be ruined and break his confident which will damage him where distin can shrug off his mitsakes.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

No it isn't.

So they can learn tons and be prem standard by never playing for the first team?

 

[Moomin]

He looked defeated and close to tears at some points in that interview.

 

[maccavennie]

Where some have seen that interview as scary and see negatives in it, I think it's great. His first real test as Everton manager and he's basically got his balls of steel on show for all to see. He believes 100% in what he's doing and is unwavering in his convictions. If he doesn't show his faith in the system he's trying to implement then the players won't and then have excuses if it goes tits up. If it does go tits up, we'll he's done it his way and the way he truly believes is right for our club. I'm 100% behind the fella, hoping the players are too and can kick start our league campaign by smashing Hull into little pieces of illegal tiger rugs

 

[bluemangroup]

So they can learn tons and be prem standard by never playing for the first team?

They can get to being on the cusp of being prem players so they are adequately prepared. Honestly looking at Browning or Ledson neither are of prem standard yet or even close. They need time to develop.

 

[davek]

I'm in two minds here...

A-- We go all out for Van Dijk, play him next to stones then in the summer we have:
Stones, Van Dijk, Browning, Galloway, Jagielka

B-- Bring in a top young prospect and bed him in this season ready to step up to first choice in the summer.

Option A sorts out the season and gets us a top centre back...however option B means this season is a write off but we could have a superstar to go with stones in defence.

I think we have to buy in quality in that position. No time to wet nurse a player. They need to step straight in and command the situation.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

They can get to being on the cusp of being prem players so they are adequately prepared. Honestly looking at Browning or Ledson neither are of prem standard yet or even close. They need time to develop.

I'd argue that Distin is no longer prem standard, and that Browning in particular is closer to being prem level than you think he is. But we'll just have to disagree on this one.

 

[davek]

Where some have seen that interview as scary and see negatives in it, I think it's great. His first real test as Everton manager and he's basically got his balls of steel on show for all to see. He believes 100% in what he's doing and is unwavering in his convictions. If he doesn't show his faith in the system he's trying to implement then the players won't and then have excuses if it goes tits up. If it does go tits up, we'll he's done it his way and the way he truly believes is right for our club. I'm 100% behind the fella, hoping the players are too and can kick start our league campaign by smashing Hull into little pieces of illegal tiger rugs

Exactly mate. Imagine he'd come out in the media in the last few days and started saying we'll tinker with the set up and and try and get tighter. It might have pacified a few of the divvies, but his blood would be in the water. I like what he's said. Basically it's 'if you want it done another way, then get another manager'. It's a very strong message to hammer out to the detractors in the media and to his own players.

 

[Boss_Blue]

What the......? That's a very good post.

So are all my posts you whopper.

 

[bluemangroup]

I'd argue that Distin is no longer prem standard, and that Browning in particular is closer to being prem level than you think he is. But we'll just have to disagree on this one.

Respectfully of course. But you run the risk of destroying a players career before it's even started by overburdening them. Distins career is tailing off and hes struggling but I'd rather keep him there and let the young ones go at their own pace.

 

[bluemangroup]

So are all my posts you whopper.

Whoa there. I was trying to say I found myself nodding along to it, which I don't find I do with your posts often. I usually just laugh.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Respectfully of course. But you run the risk of destroying a players career before it's even started by overburdening them. Distins career is tailing off and hes struggling but I'd rather keep him there and let the young ones go at their own pace.

Perhaps you're right, and perhaps he isn't ready and it'll be too much too soon. He's always impressed me though.

I'm just sick of seeing that melt making mistake after mistake, every single one of which seems to lead to a goal. He seems to have much slower reactions than he used to, Newcastle pointed that out nicely.