Marco Silva

[Kever10]

The last two league games have brought a decent set of results but the performances were a definite cause for concern. Especially Saturday which had us barely being able to string a set of passes together.

I said before the Palace game I could see us being turned over and I can see it again against Southampton. That's absolutely no way to be feeling when going into games against bang average teams.

Thing is, we are a bang average team. It's not like we've been playing well and missing out due to bad luck. Koeman has left us with a very average, unbalanced squad. He spent big on average players that he thought were established and would come straight in and consolidate, but it was very short sighted, and badly judged.

The whole squad needed a rebuild when Moyes left, Martinez was working on introducing the youngsters, as we didn't have the funds, but it takes time, and we weren't patient enough. Koeman tried the short term fix and it's set us back years.

 

[rochdaleblue]

The major worry all season has not just been the results, but the dire performances week in week out. You are always going to struggle to win games, when you concede as many goals as us (one clean sheet on the opening day of the season) and create so few chances as we do. Of course a pacy centre half to make us play 10 yards higher up the pitch and a centre forward will help. But to me the biggest hurdle to us winning games is the lack of creativity in the side. People have bemoaned losing Lukaku (rightly so) but with the personnel in our team at present, does anyone think he'd be as scoring as freely as he did last season. I doubt it. It's going to take more than one January window to sort this mess out.

 

[dannyboy]

Thing is, we are a bang average team. It's not like we've been playing well and missing out due to bad luck. Koeman has left us with a very average, unbalanced squad. He spent big on average players that he thought were established and would come straight in and consolidate, but it was very short sighted, and badly judged.

The whole squad needed a rebuild when Moyes left, Martinez was working on introducing the youngsters, as we didn't have the funds, but it takes time, and we weren't patient enough. Koeman tried the short term fix and it's set us back years.

Martinez had drained every ounce of hope out of the club and had to go. It was nothing to do with patience, just his inability to show any willingness in organising a defence.

I didn't want Koeman but he did a good job last year. Shame about the completely awful transfer window this summer that's probably ruined us for a couple of years...

 

[Khalekan]

Thing is, we are a bang average team. It's not like we've been playing well and missing out due to bad luck. Koeman has left us with a very average, unbalanced squad. He spent big on average players that he thought were established and would come straight in and consolidate, but it was very short sighted, and badly judged.

The whole squad needed a rebuild when Moyes left, Martinez was working on introducing the youngsters, as we didn't have the funds, but it takes time, and we weren't patient enough. Koeman tried the short term fix and it's set us back years.

If Moshiri’s money had come in two years earlier, when we were looking like we were really going places, Bobby might have built a super little team.

Instead we wound up with a horrible team created by a horrible, spendthrift manager

 

[billyblue80]

Just get it done Everton so tedious now we need a manager in asap!

 

[Kever10]

Martinez had drained every ounce of hope out of the club and had to go. It was nothing to do with patience, just his inability to show any willingness in organising a defence.

I didn't want Koeman but he did a good job last year. Shame about the completely awful transfer window this summer that's probably ruined us for a couple of years...

The fans drained every ounce of hope out of the club, not Martinez.

People level these criticisms at him, he didn't know how to set up a defence, etc. Well, stats, and subsequent defensive frailties in a team using the same core of players and a far more conservative, defensive line up and tactics, show me that maybe it wasn't quite as simple as the manager was at fault, and that it was the same core of players that were to blame.

He had to go eventually, because it got past the point of no return, but that was brought on and accelerated by a core of unreasonable and unrealistic fans and the bizarre belief that we somehow deserve to be at the top of the pile forever more.

Sometimes you need to take a step or 2 back to move forward, and like I say, with the squad Martinez took over, it was always going to happen.

Don't kid yourself that we wouldn't be going through the same downturn if we had kept Moyes or appointed any other manager instead of Martinez.

 

[Zatara]

I doubt Watford would let him leave.

Said the Watford posters about their manager

 

[royvernon39]

The major worry all season has not just been the results, but the dire performances week in week out. You are always going to struggle to win games, when you concede as many goals as us (one clean sheet on the opening day of the season) and create so few chances as we do. Of course a pacy centre half to make us play 10 yards higher up the pitch and a centre forward will help. But to me the biggest hurdle to us winning games is the lack of creativity in the side. People have bemoaned losing Lukaku (rightly so) but with the personnel in our team at present, does anyone think he'd be as scoring as freely as he did last season. I doubt it. It's going to take more than one January window to sort this mess out.

The lack of creativity is one of the things that beats me. RK signs five no.10's but there is no creativity in the side.

Actually Rooney is still the best passer for me but he's lost so much fitness that he's a liability. Barry could look up and find someone but Gana and Schilderlein are water-carriers and Schilderlein has a hole in his bucket right now. There is no easy fix to he EFC mess.

EFC's goals against Watford were all cock-ups as was the second against Palace. The first was a dive. All goals are equal but how long can we expect the opposition to help us?

 

[COYBL25]

The lack of creativity is one of the things that beats me. RK signs five no.10's but there is no creativity in the side.

Actually Rooney is still the best passer for me but he's lost so much fitness that he's a liability. Barry could look up and find someone but Gana and Schilderlein are water-carriers and Schilderlein has a hole in his bucket right now. There is no easy fix to he EFC mess.

EFC's goals against Watford were all cock-ups as was the second against Palace. The first was a dive. All goals are equal but how long can we expect the opposition to help us?

Spot on there.

Fortunately our next few games is quite kind to us, so affords us a bit of breathing space.

I hate to say it, but if we haven't somehow got things sorted before we play the RS, the score line against them could be an embarrassing one.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Koeman has left us with a very average, unbalanced squad. He spent big on average players that he thought were established and would come straight in and consolidate, but it was very short sighted, and badly judged.

The whole squad needed a rebuild when Moyes left, Martinez was working on introducing the youngsters, as we didn't have the funds, but it takes time, and we weren't patient enough. Koeman tried the short term fix and it's set us back years.

I think you're being generous with "average."

 

[TheFinnFan]

You guys are missing the trick. We have lots of quality. It's not about that. This is a mental thing.

Simply put "we dont know what we are doing"

We are classic example of a team that is lost. Personally I think it has something to do with the fact that we bought so many new players. Team is scattered. We are not blowing into the one cole so to speak.
Picking order inside the team is not clear
The fact that managerial situation had been and continues to be a mess doesnt help at all


Next manager should ship lads to the docks and say. Get your picking order straight like pack of Huskies do.

I saw more heart and drive in Watford team yesterday than ive seen in any Everton game this season.

 

[ilikecheese]

You guys are missing the trick. We have lots of quality. It's not about that. This is a mental thing.

Simply put "we dont know what we are doing"

We are classic example of a team that is lost. Personally I think it has something to do with the fact that we bought so many new players. Team is scattered. We are not blowing into the one cole so to speak.
Picking order inside the team is not clear
The fact that managerial situation had been and continues to be a mess doesnt help at all


Next manager should ship lads to the docks and say. Get your picking order straight like pack of Huskies do.

I saw more heart and drive in Watford team yesterday than ive seen in any Everton game this season.

*coal
*pecking

Agree with your post though mate. It was always going to be difficult with so many new players. This is what happens when folks with a lot of money try to play real life Football Manager.

We have looked like strangers on the pitch so frequently.

 

[TheFinnFan]

*coal
*pecking

Agree with your post though mate. It was always going to be difficult with so many new players. This is what happens when folks with a lot of money try to play real life Football Manager.

We have looked like strangers on the pitch so frequently.

Ah thanks, cole Hahaha
Yeah thats absolutely right!

 

[Hong Kong Phooey]

I don’t share Dave’s confidence here to be honest. It’s difficult to see a successful conclusion to this if the Watford board are adamant they won’t even listen to offers. If the article in the independent has a grain of truth in it and they won’t even back down even if he resigns and they’ll make him sit out the year, then it’s probably best to move on.

Maybe he’ll be more attainable in the summer? If that’s the case do you stick or twist? Move on to another manager on a longer term contract now even though he’s clearly not Moshiri’s first choice, or give it to Unsworth or another stop gap until the summer and then go again for Silva?

 

[jinkyali]

The truth is we were outclassed by the bottom team in the league yesterday.

We really weren't though.
Second half with bit more up top we would have won.