2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

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I do see why you think it is ridiculous. If he was an unknown manager and we had this start, I wouldn’t be calling for their head.

I’ve seen what went on with him at Watford and it’s a concern.

That’s David Unsworth Everton team was possibly the worst I have ever seen in the 20 years I’ve been going the match. That team managed to turn around a two goal deficit to beat Marco Silva’s Watford.

This bad start has been very concerning. The alarm bells are ringing of what’s to come.

Oh come on, of course you would. In fact you'd probably be even worse by moaning at the club for appointing an unknown manager instead of someone with pedigree.
 

Our start is concerning indeed and whoever the manager is at any given time, is open to fair questioning and criticism. We heavily rely on home wins against sides outside the top six - the 13 games a year where we get most of our points from, and to pick up just one point from Hudds/West Ham is deeply worrying in the context of two dreadfully disappointing team performances.

Silva won't be going anywhere though, and to consider it at this stage would just make us a laughing stock and fatally impair Moshiri in making any more appointments at a time when he has just increased his stake.

It really is a case of Silva being here through the good, the bad, and the ugly. There is no guarantee that things will improve, but they are less likely to improve without stability.

They have made their bed with Silva, and knew what they were getting, as he did with us.

There is no silver bullet, we just have to rely on time, patience, hard work, Silvas abilities (if he proves them), and we could do with a bit of luck here and there.
 
Oh come on, of course you would. In fact you'd probably be even worse by moaning at the club for appointing an unknown manager instead of someone with pedigree.
I’d want us to appoint a manager with winning pedigree, of course, but our last four appointments have been from mid-low level Premier League clubs. We then expect them to do something different to the dross they have served up at their previous clubs.
 
I’d want us to appoint a manager with winning pedigree, of course, but our last four appointments have been from mid-low level Premier League clubs. We then expect them to do something different to the dross they have served up at their previous clubs.
And you think that Antonio Conte, former manager of Juventus, Chelsea and Italy would be interested in managing us. Not a chance mate

I understand what you mean about the aim high thing but you've got to be realistic.
 
And you think that Antonio Conte, former manager of Juventus, Chelsea and Italy would be interested in managing us. Not a chance mate

I understand what you mean about the aim high thing but you've got to be realistic.
Then we accept our place and be done with it. Man City and Chelsea are where they are through having the ambition to be better. Both were smaller clubs than us.
 

I do see why you think it is ridiculous. If he was an unknown manager and we had this start, I wouldn’t be calling for their head.

I’ve seen what went on with him at Watford and it’s a concern.

That’s David Unsworth Everton team was possibly the worst I have ever seen in the 20 years I’ve been going the match. That team managed to turn around a two goal deficit to beat Marco Silva’s Watford.

This bad start has been very concerning. The alarm bells are ringing of what’s to come.

Martínez - proven bottom half manager with a winning rate of 29.33% in his last 2 seasons. Sacked. Just not good enough.
Koeman - was ok by getting 7th in his first season but got 7 points out of 7 games against a couple of Sky teams in his second season. Failed after spending huge with the fraud Walsh. Sacked.
Unsworth - A caretaker. Perhaps not PL quality. Relieved of duty.
Fat Sam - was appointed out of desperation. Got 8th in the end but took away the games under Koeman and Unsy he might got 7th. Sacked because of boring style of play.

Judging by the past record, a manager will lose his job if we can’t finish outside top 6 which I think is fair expectation. BUT Silva doesn’t get his new players in yet so let’s see if he can turn this around next month. Fulham and Palace at home and the real test will be Arsenal and Man Utd away.
 
Then we accept our place and be done with it. Man City and Chelsea are where they are through having the ambition to be better. Both were smaller clubs than us.
Manchester City and Chelsea got where they are by getting mega money in a time that every other club wasn't mega rich. If we had got Moshiri with his wealth now 10 years ago we would've done the same.
 
I think Brands has a massive role to play with regards to Silva's fate really. Obviously the two have been charged to work closely together to put us back on the right path, but ultimately it's up to Silva to pick the team and how they are to play. It's then up to Brands to find and bring in the suitable players to fit into Silva's system - if he doesn't then you'd argue that it would be Silva getting the bullet either way.

Think we'll know a lot more about how the future of this current Everton is going to pan out by the end of August 2019.

Manchester City and Chelsea got where they are by getting mega money in a time that every other club wasn't mega rich. If we had got Moshiri with his wealth now 10 years ago we would've done the same.
This. Hard to argue that we've probably missed the boat now unfortunately. Proper 'Everton that'.
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Our start is concerning indeed and whoever the manager is at any given time, is open to fair questioning and criticism. We heavily rely on home wins against sides outside the top six - the 13 games a year where we get most of our points from, and to pick up just one point from Hudds/West Ham is deeply worrying in the context of two dreadfully disappointing team performances.

Silva won't be going anywhere though, and to consider it at this stage would just make us a laughing stock and fatally impair Moshiri in making any more appointments at a time when he has just increased his stake.

It really is a case of Silva being here through the good, the bad, and the ugly. There is no guarantee that things will improve, but they are less likely to improve without stability.

They have made their bed with Silva, and knew what they were getting, as he did with us.

There is no silver bullet, we just have to rely on time, patience, hard work, Silvas abilities (if he proves them), and we could do with a bit of luck here and there.

This. That’s what worries me the most. When we lose the magic touch at home, guess where will we finish in the table. The last time we lost this magic touch was 2014-2016 and the rest is history.
 
Manchester City and Chelsea got where they are by getting mega money in a time that every other club wasn't mega rich. If we had got Moshiri with his wealth now 10 years ago we would've done the same.
Yes, but that just means instead of catapulting into the top 4 the club now has the task of making sure we compete and finish in the top 7.
With real potential to finish anywhere from 1-7.
Just like the other 6 are doing. Because that's what the PL has become in world football
The club shouldn't just roll over, hold up its hands and say, oh well, we missed the boat.
And don't think it is.
But the club has a monumental task of changing the mentality and spirit of the club to bring it back to where it was.
 

This. That’s what worries me the most. When we lose the magic touch at home, guess where will we finish in the table. The last time we lost this magic touch was 2014-2016 and the rest is history.

There looks to be enough tragic sides that we should be ok from the dreaded R word this season but you never know with Everton. If we are in another relegation battle with players like Pickford Richarlison Mina Bernard Walcott then there is something seriously wrong at the club.
 
Yes, but that just means instead of catapulting into the top 4 the club now has the task of making sure we compete and finish in the top 7.
With real potential to finish anywhere from 1-7.
Just like the other 6 are doing. Because that's what the PL has become in world football
The club shouldn't just roll over, hold up its hands and say, oh well, we missed the boat.
And don't think it is.
But the club has a monumental task of changing the mentality and spirit of the club to bring it back to where it was.
Totally agree mate but you need stability at the club to compete consistently and look to improve year upon year. Panic sacking a manager every 3 months doesn't help anything and is definitely not the answer. It could turn out Silva is crap, but we will only know for sure if he is given the time and resources to try and improve us.
 
Only way we'll ever do anything is by Usmanov coming in and attracting a top manager.

Moshiri hasnt the funds to pay a world class manager £10- 15 million year to attract them and so far all the appointments post Moyes have beem poor.

We appointed Silva before Brands and Koeman before Walsh - we have got the whole process wrong and the club is poorly ran from top to bottom.

Losing interest massively in EFC as of late amd honestly cant see me returning to GP until the club, owner, players and manager seem to actually want to progress.
 
Manchester City and Chelsea got where they are by getting mega money in a time that every other club wasn't mega rich. If we had got Moshiri with his wealth now 10 years ago we would've done the same.


A simple truth.

(although we have to allow for the “Everton that” factor.....if Roman or Mansoor had came here instead we might still have screwed up :blush:)
 

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