2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[EverBlue92]

...as I said on the previous page, of the 7 teams above us we have played 6 away from home (City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Wolves). There’s only Spurs who we haven’t visited.

My only concern is our home record is littered with dropped points mate - West Ham, Newcastle, Huddersfield, Watford.

Will it make any difference playing Wolves home or away when you saw how we performed against sides like Watford and West Ham at home?

 

[streeky]

Players look devoid of confidence , do we think a guy with the personality of a wet weekend can do anything about it ? Teams around us all winning games and showing some form. This team is ready to crumble like Watford last year, surprise surprise.

 

[Eggs]

My only concern is our home record is littered with dropped points mate - West Ham, Newcastle, Huddersfield, Watford.

Will it make any difference playing Wolves home or away when you saw how we performed against sides like Watford and West Ham at home?

..I think we struggle to break down teams who defend deep against us. It will be interesting how we cope with Spurs next week. I imagine we will actually create chances against the better teams at Goodison, it’ll be a matter of whether we take them.

It is frustrating. A new striker in January might give us a lift.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

Let’s at least give him a chance to bring in some more players, before we say he’s not good enough. It’s not his fault he has DCL and Tosun as Striker options. It took Pep a season at City for them to get used to his tactics and he’s the best manager around, he also spent a load of dough as well.

Just have a bit of patience you absolute weapons.

 

[davek]

Silva is just Martinez Mk 2. Played some pretty football at previous clubs but was always involved in relegation struggles so, typically, Everton thought 'he's the man for us'

We have our best ever PL season and extensive cup runs to look forward to over the next three seasons?

Great. Where do I sign for that?

 

[ToffeeTim]

He needs to set better defensive standards. The last 4 games the errors have been racking up.

 

[brieverton]

The overall look and feel of things is more positive, and the signings brought in have by and large been a qualified success to date.

7th is clearly the ceiling for this group of players, the point being is it the minimum expectation of Silva this season, or does the "free pass" extend to something a little more flexible.

Allardyce got us to 8th with anti-football, would a lower position playing generally more pleasing and ambitious football suit the masses? Somehow I think not.

There is just a bit of perspective needed. A run of disappointing results was preceeded by wins against sides of the calibre of Fulham, Brighton, Crystal Palace, and Cardiff, and we didn't exactly blow any of those sides away.

We need two strikers and the job of restructuring the squad extends to the whole of Silva's first contract. That's the reality.

I think it's critical we achieve 7th and would worry if that was seen as beyond us - it isn't and shouldn't be.

We are not as good as some people think and not as bad as others think. We are in the flotsam and jetsam of mediocrity whilst having to live with a level of historical expectation that other peer clubs don't have to contend with.

Silva is here to stay. I think he has done an ok job with mitigating circumstances but could do better but it's unfair to draw conclusions this soon.

He does need a breakthrough result this season. The one thing I'm sick to death of as an Evertonian is the sheer predictability of our results by and large. We get the bulk of our points from 13 home games against the non elite, interspersed by what are very occasional away wins Vs the bottom 13 and increasingly rare home wins Vs top six.

Spurs at GP is an ideal opportunity to get back on track and have some momentum going into Christmas. Silva can't win the game for the players but as manager, sooner rather than later, if we are to attain the status we all want, he has to find a way of winning these games at least occasionally. He is hampered by circumstance yes, but that is the job of a manager. If not to polish a turd, then to find solutions to problems and get more from less.

 

[davek]

He needs to set better defensive standards. The last 4 games the errors have been racking up.

We have an idiot in goal. It's a bit hard to legislate for his amount of errors.

Silva is fine. He's just been let down by the lack of striker quality he's been handed.

 

[EverBlue92]

Let’s at least give him a chance to bring in some more players, before we say he’s not good enough. It’s not his fault he has DCL and Tosun as Striker options. It took Pep a season at City for them to get used to his tactics and he’s the best manager around, he also spent a load of dough as well.

Just have a bit of patience you absolute weapons.

Watford have gash strikers who dont score yet they are level on points with us.

Yes he needs the full season however as I've said lets not pretend he has the likes of Martina, Williams, Rooney and Klaassan in the side like last year.

He has Digne, Mina, Zouma, Keane, Pickford, Richarlison, Gylfi, Walcott, Gomes, Gana, Bernard

They would get in every side outside the top 6.

I honestly think our fans are that scared of another Alladyce appointment that they'll latch onto any manager that plays "nice" football.

I think if Martinez turned up wearing a fake tash and sombrero fans would be all over it.

 

[chrissyjack]

This place is great when Everton lose

 

[BlueToff]

When the team is doing crap people will use “this is a season of transition” as an excuse.

Bearing in mind that Martinez got 5th in his first season. Koeman got 7th in his first season and Allardyce got 8th despite getting the job on 30 November. Thereby, I think there is absolutely no excuse not to finish 7th the minimum with this possibly the best squad in a decade.

The home matches which see Everton get beaten by West Ham and failure to win against Huddersfield, Newcastle and Watford raise doubt. Of course, it takes time (for breaking the top6) but all we ask for is to be the best of the rest this season. Hopefully, the manager can turn this bad run of form around and do his job when Everton get a EL place next season.

Martinez got 5th with a team that had the foundations of Moyes and had been together for the best part of 5 years.

Koeman got 7th because we had Lukaku.

Last season the league was dreadful. The fact we finished 8th said more about the other teams than us.

This season the football is better. The results have, by and large, been better. We've hit a bit of slump atm, and our last four away games have been against sides who will all expect to be in the top six.

As long as the progress can be seen in terms of our squad, our way of playing and where we want to aim for (which the progress can already be seen) I see little difference between finishing in 7th or 8th. But the fact is is that we've got half a season to go, and all of these sides we've just played away to play at home.

Perspective.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I agree its daft wanting Silva out now... however I am not seeing any progress tbh.

0 wins against sides in the top 6

1 win against sides in the top 10

Dropped points at

West Ham
Newcastle
Huddersfield
Wolves
Bournemouth
Watford

Yes we are creating more chances and pressing more... however its not really that difficult to improve on last seasons shocking performances is it?

As I've said since Newcastle if people compared our performances to those under Moyes, Martinez's first season or even Koemans and we have not improved at all/in some instances have declined.

You have got to give him the full season and Moshiri needs to back him in January to bring in atleast 2 signings however lets not pretend he's managing a side of pub footballers.

Pickford, Keane, Zouma, Digne, Mina, Gana, Gomes, Gylfi, Richarlison, Walcott would all get in any side outside the top 6.

Yesterday result flattered City for most part. Wether it was messing with the back line or individual mistakes, we lost. As have the games against Arsenal, Utd and fraggle rock they have all flattered the winner. If only those chances converted to goals.

And the overwhelming critique about our last manager, points were not enough, entertainment was also key.

We have brought in 3 players, 2 in key positions who despite the club they came from have never experienced defending at such high consistent level. This has been costly as they settle into new club and country.

And of course we are not the only team in the league improving. For some time yet the improvement may only be slight statistical as the manager and director of football put their squad and style together.

 

[blueboy1664]

I agree its daft wanting Silva out now... however I am not seeing any progress tbh.

0 wins against sides in the top 6

1 win against sides in the top 10

Dropped points at

West Ham
Newcastle
Huddersfield
Wolves
Bournemouth
Watford

Yes we are creating more chances and pressing more... however its not really that difficult to improve on last seasons shocking performances is it?

As I've said since Newcastle if people compared our performances to those under Moyes, Martinez's first season or even Koemans and we have not improved at all/in some instances have declined.

You have got to give him the full season and Moshiri needs to back him in January to bring in atleast 2 signings however lets not pretend he's managing a side of pub footballers.

Pickford, Keane, Zouma, Digne, Mina, Gana, Gomes, Gylfi, Richarlison, Walcott would all get in any side outside the top 6.

If you cannot see progress I am not sure you understand football.

Changing a team and club after Koeman, Unsworth and BFS is not a quick fix if you want long term development

That combination put our club back 5 years, absolute travesty on the pitch and more so off it. Fact

Coming In to a club with low moral and esteem, trying to build confidence and developing a football style fitting with our club will take more than 4 months, even Pep struggled in his first 12 months with the squad he inherited

Feeling within the club is on the way up, players are laughing in the workplace, new respected DOF , new manager and backroom and new players with different playing ethos

The club are clearly improving, players are adapting and results will follow. Yes we have not had results at top 6 BUT arsenal we should of been 2 nil up at half time, Man Utd cheated by ref, the [Poor language removed] we were the better team and beat by a fluke, Chelsea we drew, and yes yesterday we had a masterclass but again many positives. I agree Watford and Newcastle we failed but we did not get beat.

This project will take time but to judge him against previous managers just yet is ridiculous imo

 

[vinvinvin]

Players look devoid of confidence , do we think a guy with the personality of a wet weekend can do anything about it ? Teams around us all winning games and showing some form. This team is ready to crumble like Watford last year, surprise surprise.

Ready to crumble is a bit harsh mate. They gave our best best showing at Anfield in years and we’re unlucky, and even yesterday against City if we were clinical we could have scored 3+, which isn’t the managers fault. Also if we’ve been so bad the teams around us can’t be doing that great as they haven’t even overtaken us!

 

[BlueToff]

Watford have gash strikers who dont score yet they are level on points with us.

Yes he needs the full season however as I've said lets not pretend he has the likes of Martina, Williams, Rooney and Klaassan in the side like last year.

He has Digne, Mina, Zouma, Keane, Pickford, Richarlison, Gylfi, Walcott, Gomes, Gana, Bernard

They would get in every side outside the top 6.

I honestly think our fans are that scared of another Alladyce appointment that they'll latch onto any manager that plays "nice" football.

I think if Martinez turned up wearing a fake tash and sombrero fans would be all over it.

But what mistakes is Silva making?

Tell me?

Because as far as I can tell he isn't making many. We've looked by and large, solid, until the last few games. We're creating chances.

So his system is working. We don't pass for passings sake. We're the best team at winning the ball back in the final third in the league - Christ, look how many times we did it yesterday!