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[hibbo'sclass]

Only just caught up with this.
RIP to the murdered, time and space to grieve for their relatives and friends, and a speedy recovery to the injured.

 

[longers]

I find it insulting to parents who's kids have been brutally massacred. They can have a positive opinion of him if they want but he doesn't deserve it and it would be grossly inaccurate. It boils my blood.

You're not thinking straight. They had a positive opinion of him prior to him do appalling stuff. I doubt these same people think he's a lovely guy now he's killed 22 people.

Your post makes little sense and comes across as overly emotional and lacking logic.

 

[bluestevon]

I will literally explode if the bbc do their usual of allowing family and friends to lecture us with tales of what a great kid the bomber was, no one could have foreseen this, we are shocked, he was deep down a wonderful lad, wouldn't hurt a fly etc etc. Pure unadulterated nonsense. He's a scumbag and I hope he suffers for eternity.

His background will obviously be reported upon

 

[ToffeeTim]

Replace the word Hatred with Ignorance, and you get half way there.

There's a lot of older fellas with these extremist views who lead the young ones astray. Now I'm in no way justifying any terrorist, and I refuse to. They are responsible for their own actions. But the old guys preaching jihad in secret, who don't have the guts to do anything themselves are equally as disgusting. They need detained first minute they are noticed by the authorities.

 

[rascal]

If extra surveillance saves one kids life then it's totally worth it, regardless of the inconvenience it may cause us.

It's best to remove emotion from this, although I appreciate that it's difficult. The number one aim of terrorism is to destroy and disrupt the daily lives of their intended victims and perceived enemies. By installing CCTVs into every home in Britain it's achieving that aim.

 

[bluestevon]

There's a lot of older fellas with these extremist views who lead the young ones astray. Now I'm in no way justifying any terrorist, and I refuse to. They are responsible for their own actions. But the old guys preaching jihad in secret, who don't have the guts to do anything themselves are equally as disgusting. They need detained first minute they are noticed by the authorities.

Mate look around the world and it's the same all over

You don't get the people in Israel making the decision to blow the crap out of Palestinian kids etc dropping the bombs, instead it's a 18-19yo Conscript doing so

you don't get trump or Bush or Blair or any other politician doing anything either - they give the orders and the kids do those orders.

Same with the terrorists

It's very easy to give those orders when your sat in comfort and safety across the world

 

[Sapie88]

I will literally explode if the bbc do their usual of allowing family and friends to lecture us with tales of what a great kid the bomber was, no one could have foreseen this, we are shocked, he was deep down a wonderful lad, wouldn't hurt a fly etc etc. Pure unadulterated nonsense. He's a scumbag and I hope he suffers for eternity.

Choose your words a bit better.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Choose your words a bit better.

Just seen that.

Jesus Christ.

 

[roydo]

There's a lot of older fellas with these extremist views who lead the young ones astray. Now I'm in no way justifying any terrorist, and I refuse to. They are responsible for their own actions. But the old guys preaching jihad in secret, who don't have the guts to do anything themselves are equally as disgusting. They need detained first minute they are noticed by the authorities.

Probably better discussed in the Terrorism thread rather than this one mate, but I appreciate the cross over is all to easy to make. Done it myself earlier.

 

[arminisgod]

I'm sorry, can't agree with that at all.

These people of Islamic State (who we still don't know did it, but we suspect), are not Muslim. They're an extremist group, who do not even follow any of the Muslim meanings of life. The issue then means people who are unable to tell the difference between ISIS and Muslim, will tar every single Muslim as a terrorist, and will eventually create a huge strain on the country (unbelievably, there are far too many British people, who are incapable of telling the difference, if social media is anything to go by).

So really, it's not down to the Muslim community, it's down to every single community to unite together, to ensure the acts of terrorism stop.

Don't agree I'm afraid. I'm afraid they are Muslim. Whether they follow the correct principles is a diff matter. But they are recruited at mosques or Islamic websites and I'd bet nearly 100% of muslim family members wouldn't report it if they suspected a family member was being radicalised.

Only when that attitude changes can all communities eradicate it

 

[Boss_Blue]

Don't agree I'm afraid. I'm afraid they are Muslim. Whether they follow the correct principles is a diff matter. But they are recruited at mosques or Islamic websites and I'd bet nearly 100% of muslim family members wouldn't report it if they suspected a family member was being radicalised.

Only when that attitude changes can all communities eradicate it

And with that you can go on ignore.

 

[Moomin]

By blaming his own terrible life on others and leeching on to a convenient excuse for his own failings.

They're always sad loners with no life to speak of. That's the common trait.

This is pretty much it, social outcasts and taken in by extremists who pay them attention.

 

[bluestevon]

This is pretty much it, social outcasts and taken in by extremists who pay them attention.

thus is always the recruitment tool for extremism of all varieties.

 

[Moomin]

thus is always the recruitment tool for extremism of all varieties.

It certainly is.

 

[Walken]

By blaming his own terrible life on others and leeching on to a convenient excuse for his own failings.

They're always sad loners with no life to speak of. That's the common trait.

It's this sort of anger filled short sightedness that will allow future suicide bombers to be recruited