Manager, Long Term.

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radiostar said:
Allardyce was a horrendous choice in the first place, only supported but he super fans and the "Moshiri does no wrong" brigade.

The pair are a disaster waiting to happen for Everton. We've had an abortion of a season and we aren't even at the worst yet!
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What? The first portion of the season was utterly dire, it's only gotten better since. We look like a team now at least.
 

As above.

We've beaten some [Poor language removed] we would expect to beat 99 times out of 100 at Goodison. The rest we have been trounced.

Been an appalling season even by Everton standards and even worse after the ultra confident balls plenty were spouting pre season.
 

evertonarntwe said:
do we?

we have beaten a couple of absolute relagation fodder at home like but other than that we have been a shambles
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We did a decent job of closing down the RS at Analfield considering the way we were playing at the time. Seeing Klop's pan after the game was priceless. He has done a job, but he is not the manager for us come the end of the season.
As some other posters have already said Mancini minus scarf would be a good shout.
 
The fact that it's taken BFS this long to realize that Gana/Davies is the appropriate pair in central midfield along with how to get Rooney and Siggy into the side at the same time is just embarrassing. The fact that he continues to put forth terrible lineups away from home indicates he's the wrong guy.

However, the next manager, if we choose someone that wants to play like Fonseca or even Tuchel, will yet again have quite a bit of new faces in order to play the way they want. Not saying that's a bad thing.
 
itsnowak said:
Mate, what have we lost?

We need to be moving up the table and pushing for champions league places. Every year that we aren't giving a serious go at breaking into the top six to four places is unacceptable bottom line for me.

Just look how much we've been set back by recent managers. We'll be safe this year but do you really want to be discussing the threat of relegation again next year?

We need to be very careful with our next selection
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And if we keep Big Sam that is exactly what we will be doing.

The point I am making is most clubs burn through managers. Most don't work. We have to accept football has changed from the days of having a manager for a long time meant stability in a good way. It can just as easily be argued it means the board has no ambition.

Silva by all accounts is a top coach. He meets plenty of the criteria. Is he a gamble. Yes but so are all the rest and Silva would be relatively inexpensive.
 
MickA said:
Long term management is an outdated model, football has moved on.

Employ the right technical staff behind the scenes, instill the values and hire coaches that fit that style of play.

Give them 3 year deals max, no success you're out and we move on. Managers have worked under zero pressure at EFC for far too long.
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Almost 100% agree but I don't think we should be so ruthless based solely on results.

If we are progressing by playing a better style, history of correcting the obvious issues, improvements in the squad, ability to attract better players, cup runs/success then we shouldnt just get rid because we happened to lose a few games we would have expected to win.

Sometimes results don't go your way and its no one's fault.
 

Abraders said:
We weren't even doing that prior. We were getting slapped 4-1 by Saints etc.
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agreed, but we're getting equally slapped now away from home and have a far less likeable guy in charge

Agent Blue said:
We did a decent job of closing down the RS at Analfield considering the way we were playing at the time. Seeing Klop's pan after the game was priceless. He has done a job, but he is not the manager for us come the end of the season.
As some other posters have already said Mancini minus scarf would be a good shout.
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agree it was a good point, but in reality we didn't deserve anything from that game, we were shocking and 1 moment of brilliance from rooney ( the ball )/ and one moment of calamity from lovren got us that point
 
evertonarntwe said:
agreed, but we're getting equally slapped now away from home and have a far less likeable guy in charge



agree it was a good point, but in reality we didn't deserve anything from that game, we were shocking and 1 moment of brilliance from rooney ( the ball )/ and one moment of calamity from lovren got us that point
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We got our first away win in over a year or something under Sam.

In regards to saying we deserved nothing from the Liverpool game, we played really well in the FA cup game and got nothing so..

The losses to Arsenal, Tottenham were bad yeah but did you really expect anything else - they already ruined us this season once.

Honestly we are so so far away from being a top 6 team. We should be able to give them a go like, but no manager we've had has managed that consistently.
 
LiamG said:
And if we keep Big Sam that is exactly what we will be doing.

The point I am making is most clubs burn through managers. Most don't work. We have to accept football has changed from the days of having a manager for a long time meant stability in a good way. It can just as easily be argued it means the board has no ambition.

Silva by all accounts is a top coach. He meets plenty of the criteria. Is he a gamble. Yes but so are all the rest and Silva would be relatively inexpensive.
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Silva has done utterly nothing to suggest he is a top coach.
 

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