Maguire from hull he seems a decent player in everton mould and attitude

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Sign of the times.

I also expect Valencia to be stopping too. Add that to the long term commitment to Mirallas and the underwhelming C-L, and the underlining of the fact that Baines and Jagielka will end their careers in a few seasons time here at the club and it's pretty dismal..
 
No he is crap. Everton are not Stoke City. I want Van Dijk and Koulibaly.

So does every CL club in Europe. When United are snapping up Keane who is the equivalent of Jagielka when we got him you can see how shallow the CB pool is. Liverpool extending Lovren shows what a paucity there is. Maguire is decent, better than Williams and Jags but we need better if we can get it.
 
Never change Dave.
It is mate. We went from three seasons ago thinking the world was our oyster and facing it with a spring in our step to now where we are basically grateful to be seen as best of the rest again.

If that isn't reverse evolution in action I dont know what is.
 
Sign of the times.

I also expect Valencia to be stopping too. Add that to the long term commitment to Mirallas and the underwhelming C-L, and the underlining of the fact that Baines and Jagielka will end their careers in a few seasons time here at the club and it's pretty dismal..
Valencia wont be with us next season
Jags Wont be with us next season
DCL has not once played in his proper position CF so wouldnt be too hasty in writing him off yet
Mirallas will be a squad player
 
So does every CL club in Europe. When United are snapping up Keane who is the equivalent of Jagielka when we got him you can see how shallow the CB pool is. Liverpool extending Lovren shows what a paucity there is. Maguire is decent, better than Williams and Jags but we need better if we can get it.

I don't rate him. He is too slow and clumsy. He reminds me of all those bottom half quality CB.

If we want CL we got to sign better players. It's this step up that we need.
 
Valencia wont be with us next season
Jags Wont be with us next season
DCL has not once played in his proper position CF so wouldnt be too hasty in writing him off yet
Mirallas will be a squad player
At least three of those four wont transpire.
 
It is mate. We went from three seasons ago thinking the world was our oyster and facing it with a spring in our step to now where we are basically grateful to be seen as best of the rest again.

If that isn't reverse evolution in action I dont know what is.

3 seasons ago we were in the same position. Boss season but with plenty of questions ahead. Can we keep ahold of the best striker we've had in thirty years. Will we be able to hold off the advances of the big clubs for Ross Barkley.

We're going to be fine. We always are.
 
It is mate. We went from three seasons ago thinking the world was our oyster and facing it with a spring in our step to now where we are basically grateful to be seen as best of the rest again.

If that isn't reverse evolution in action I dont know what is.

I agree

It's a shame that we were so mismanaged for 2 years with people like McGeady and Cleverly brought in that took us back faster than the Delorean

Glad the repair job is we'll underway
 
3 seasons ago we were in the same position. Boss season but with plenty of questions ahead. Can we keep ahold of the best striker we've had in thirty years. Will we be able to hold off the advances of the big clubs for Ross Barkley.

We're going to be fine. We always are.
No mate, just no.

I think the only resemblance between the two seasons in question is that in both we tailed off in the final month or so.
 
Does he strike you as the type of player a team who has made it open they want to break the top 4 soon-ish would buy?

There's your answer.
 
It is mate. We went from three seasons ago thinking the world was our oyster and facing it with a spring in our step to now where we are basically grateful to be seen as best of the rest again.

If that isn't reverse evolution in action I dont know what is.

Why did you keep mentioning three seasons ago and forgot the last two seasons which put this club backwards? Agenda.
 
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