Luke Garbutt

Tree13 · May 22, 2015

IllinoisBlue said:
The only way Garbutt gets significant game time is if we sell Baines or he gets injured. I can't see Baines losing enough form for Garbutt to challenge for 3-5 years yet.

davek said:
I think Baines has been well off his best for ages, tbh. I can see a fairly rapid transition between him being eased out for his successor. But if that potential successor isn't prepared to wait and has more lucrative offers elsewhere....

I don't think Baines will still be the better of the two, IN THE SYSTEM WE PLAY, in five years time. We ask our fullbacks to cover more ground than any other player on the park, and we ask them to do it at tremendous pace. That will inevitably take its toll over time, and Baines has been sprinting up and down our left side for six or seven years now. And he turns 31 in December.

Laoning Garbutt out for the 2015/16 season, and maybe for half of the season after that, would be the way to go IMHO. Baines cannot go on forever and Garbutt is well-placed (currently) to be his successor.

Saint Domingo · May 22, 2015

MartSlinger said:
Problem is theres talk on here that Liverpool, Man City and Spurs all want him and he'll get less of a chance playing at those teams than he would here, so if he went to any of those three you'd surely have to question his motives.

If he goes and plays for a team lower than us, say a Villa or a Bournemouth then fair play to the lad, but if he was to do that id rather he signed a new deal and we loaned him there.

Liverpool City and Spurs all have far worse players than us at left back. Enrique, Moreno, Clichy, Kolarov, Rose, Davies? I'd take Baines or Oviedo over every single one of these. Garbutt could easily be first choice at Liverpool with even half decent performances. He's have to be world class to get in at left back for us when Baines and Oviedo are fit and in form.

RFUS · May 22, 2015

Baines is clearly winding down now. Previously he was almost immune to injuries but he keeps picking them up. He's lost a yard of pace too.

I hope Garbutt stays. It's surely not long until he'd get to be first choice, and he's such a natural successor to Baines. That kind of brilliance is very difficult to replace, and it would soften the blow when Baines finally does call it a day, if we had an immediate, like-for-like replacement.

micknick · May 22, 2015

RadioFriendlyUnitShifter said:
Baines is clearly winding down now. Previously he was almost immune to injuries but he keeps picking them up. He's lost a yard of pace too.

I hope Garbutt stays. It's surely not long until he'd get to be first choice, and he's such a natural successor to Baines. That kind of brilliance is very difficult to replace, and it would soften the blow when Baines finally does call it a day, if we had an immediate, like-for-like replacement.

At this moment in time would you rather have Oviedo or Garbutt playing in place of Baines?

blueblue · May 22, 2015

MartSlinger said:
Problem is theres talk on here that Liverpool, Man City and Spurs all want him and he'll get less of a chance playing at those teams than he would here, so if he went to any of those three you'd surely have to question his motives.

If he goes and plays for a team lower than us, say a Villa or a Bournemouth then fair play to the lad, but if he was to do that id rather he signed a new deal and we loaned him there.

MS. I really don'y believe the rumours about Liverpool, City and clubs at that level. He would be well down the pecking order,probably even further than at Everton, and by all accounts would not be that cheap as there will be compensation for Everton and the package offered by Everton will have to be matched or bettered.

RFUS · May 22, 2015

micknick said:
At this moment in time would you rather have Oviedo or Garbutt playing in place of Baines?

Very hard to say really. Liked what I saw of Oviedo but his fitness record is worrying. Obviously it was a freak injury, but why's he still out?

I don't think I've seen enough from either to concretely say who's better right now, but given Garbutt's potential and set piece ability, I'd side with Luke.

Bluedavey · May 22, 2015

Maybe playing Galloway is proving to Martinez we have cover at LB to let Garbutt go on loan for season.

Jayhow15 · May 22, 2015

Bluedavey said:
Maybe playing Galloway is proving to Martinez we have cover at LB to let Garbutt go on loan for season.

Then let him go? Can't see it myself

TheFinnFan · May 22, 2015

If Luke accepts year loan it's shows he's blue. If not...burn him.

Jayhow15 · May 22, 2015

RadioFriendlyUnitShifter said:
Very hard to say really. Liked what I saw of Oviedo but his fitness record is worrying. Obviously it was a freak injury, but why's he still out?

I don't think I've seen enough from either to concretely say who's better right now, but given Garbutt's potential and set piece ability, I'd side with Luke.

He's broken his metatarsal. That's why he's still out. On top of the broken leg and then the infection suffered from the reaction to the pins being removed and then his knee injury - but hey ho !

CahillsCornerFlag · May 22, 2015

Jayhow15 said:
He's broken his metatarsal. That's why he's still out. On top of the broken leg and then the infection suffered from the reaction to the pins being removed and then his knee injury - but hey ho !

What a fanny whys he letting little things like that keep him out.

SpurtingLesbian · May 22, 2015

Jayhow15 said:
He's broken his metatarsal. That's why he's still out. On top of the broken leg and then the infection suffered from the reaction to the pins being removed and then his knee injury - but hey ho !

He'll be back in training soon.....

RFUS · May 22, 2015

Jayhow15 said:
He's broken his metatarsal. That's why he's still out. On top of the broken leg and then the infection suffered from the reaction to the pins being removed and then his knee injury - but hey ho !

Wasn't saying he was injury prone, I was saying it's worrying!

micknick · May 22, 2015

RadioFriendlyUnitShifter said:
Very hard to say really. Liked what I saw of Oviedo but his fitness record is worrying. Obviously it was a freak injury, but why's he still out?

I don't think I've seen enough from either to concretely say who's better right now, but given Garbutt's potential and set piece ability, I'd side with Luke.

I think potential is there but we've seen far less of him than Oviedo. Bearing in mind that there is only a couple of years between Garbutt and Oviedo and Oviedo looks better at this point in his career I would rather Keep Bryan barring injuries of course.

Dithering Dougie · May 22, 2015

Jayhow15 said:
He's broken his metatarsal. That's why he's still out. On top of the broken leg and then the infection suffered from the reaction to the pins being removed and then his knee injury - but hey ho !