Luke Garbutt

Try to keep him, or let him leave ?


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I'm not blinded by everything, i agree with you on most points.

But you as well as i know everton football club no matter how friendly they seem are the club of twisting, and lies. They lie about nearly every situation and put soundbites on there to twist it so they can look good.

They've done it as recently as that Beardwood fella. There are no other people other than 'yes men' at everton football club, And the manager is no different.

You clearly won't change your mind on Garbutt but the lad has deserved more games than he's played, such as today.

If the lad want's game time and everton are giving him the false promises they have given loads of players, then you literally cannot blame him for not wanting to sign that deal.

What false promises do you refer too?
 

Absolute tosh.

Baines is an outstanding left back, the best in the country. Remember Leighton turned down Utd's advances last year; Bobby obviously values loyalty which I think is absolutely right. There has been perhaps one occasion where Luke should have come in but we won that day and Hibbo was vital to that win.

All Bobby has done in the press is praise him, talk about his development and his willing that he stays at the club and signs a deal.

Alot on here are blinded by the fact that he is a young player who has a fantastic left foot. He has LOADS of development to concentrate on; positioning is awful at times. Alot also forget a) how young Bryan is and b) how able Bryan is as a left back. He is great and imho better right now than Luke.

Luke has been out in Manchester on a number of occasions the night before a game as well; something Martinez requests the first team squad dont do.

Luke wants game time yes; but so do 20 other players. Loyalty is a two way thing here; Everton can promise him the world but Luke has to show willingness too. Why should Bobby play him today when he still hasnt signed his deal? Playing Galloway makes more sense as he is definitely with us today. Playing Luke today wont suddenly get him to sign a deal.


The contract is agreed in terms of money; its significant. But Luke is delaying it for whatever reason. He has recently switched agent so is probably being advised to keep his powder dry.

Spot on this.
 
Absolute tosh.

Baines is an outstanding left back, the best in the country. Remember Leighton turned down Utd's advances last year; Bobby obviously values loyalty which I think is absolutely right. There has been perhaps one occasion where Luke should have come in but we won that day and Hibbo was vital to that win.

All Bobby has done in the press is praise him, talk about his development and his willing that he stays at the club and signs a deal.

Alot on here are blinded by the fact that he is a young player who has a fantastic left foot. He has LOADS of development to concentrate on; positioning is awful at times. Alot also forget a) how young Bryan is and b) how able Bryan is as a left back. He is great and imho better right now than Luke.

Luke has been out in Manchester on a number of occasions the night before a game as well; something Martinez requests the first team squad dont do.

Luke wants game time yes; but so do 20 other players. Loyalty is a two way thing here; Everton can promise him the world but Luke has to show willingness too. Why should Bobby play him today when he still hasnt signed his deal? Playing Galloway makes more sense as he is definitely with us today. Playing Luke today wont suddenly get him to sign a deal.


The contract is agreed in terms of money; its significant. But Luke is delaying it for whatever reason. He has recently switched agent so is probably being advised to keep his powder dry.

Right that's it. Stop the world, I'm getting off
 

Excellent popcorn from bobby.

He's laughing his bollox off.

He said only yesterday that he wanted to try a couple of things in these last 2 games. The chance to look at one or two players and experiment and start preparation for next season.

Galloway playing is no indication Garbutt is going, calm the hell down lads.
 
What false promises do you refer too?
I think his whole situation with them offering him a contract, 'oh yeah we'll deffo give you a loan, then you'll come back and be first choice' that was a false promise.


Even going further back, The lies that was made about Jeffers forcing a move to arsenal, the board insisting it would be better for them and his career. (He was on holiday at the time when the club told him he'd been sold) and the after care of that situation.

False promises to the fans, for years.. looking for a buyer 24/7? right okay.

Even this new situation with regarding the land for our 'super new stadium' discussion, it's been what 57 weeks?

Anyway i wont turn this into a anti-board thread, but we'll disagree on Luke.

I see absolutely no blame on his side, regarding not signing the contract, and you do.

It is what it is.
 

Excellent popcorn from bobby.

He's laughing his bollox off.

He said only yesterday that he wanted to try a couple of things in these last 2 games. The chance to look at one or two players and experiment and start preparation for next season.

Galloway playing is no indication Garbutt is going, calm the hell down lads.

What does Martinez gain from popcorning the fanbase?
 

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