Current Affairs London Protests

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Stevie wonder said:
these situations are always going to attract mutants . However Plymouth is a proud military city I’m not surprised some of them went out to protect memorials. I still don’t agree with any of it under this covid 19 situation
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Thats the irony here isn't it? We are in the midst of a pandemic. How many lives have been cost as a result. BLM have said as much as well, that they don't want people to protest publicly because it will cost lives.
 
Debunkology said:
No, the horrific patronising attitude, is what is perpetrated by people like yourself towards black people telling them that they cannot be what they want to be in the United States.

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It absolutely is, and it is quite disturbing you can't see a fault in the system and want to place blame elsewhere so you can passively aggressively accuse minorities of underachieving
 
catcherintherye said:
I think you're right mate. I didn't go to any protests. The thing is though, the horse has bolted long before these protests, the conga lines for VE day, the Cummings affair, the punch ups on beaches, now a group of (it should be said) mainly white idiots going statue hunting. I know I have a laugh and joke about such things, but I do think as a white person (which I am) it would be very odd to be pushing oneself to the front of the cue to go pulling down statues. If black people want them to come down, thats fair enough but I do think it's a bit unhelpful.

I also think you are right with the Churchill statue. There's a small section of idiots (who mainly label themselves antifa) who can't really move beyond wanting a punch up, so will look to do things to enable this. I mean whatever you think about Churchill he was never a fascist. He held some racist views, but also played a remarkable role in helping the country defeat Hitler. Again it's not my place to say one negates the other but I don't think graffiting statues is a sensible use of time. He is seen favourably by lots of people and you just push those people towards Tommy Robinson when you do that.

I think thats the issue though, that they want Tommy and his ilk there. Whereas to me anyway, that is the last thing thats needed.

The sad part in this, is like I said the other day Black Lives Matter have actually opposed these protests, never mind the graffiti. They are a peaceful organisation who want to help in their communities. Yes their main objective is to help Black people but also they want to try and support poor white people. I don't agree with everything they say, but I do think that on the whole they do a lot of good. Unfortuately, the idiots who behaved badly, ignored their messages and ambition get a bit of a free pass, as BLM have to take the flak for their decisions.

The whole thing has been handled awfully. I hope we can get some protection of key War memorials without needing Tommy and his ilk there, as it will just spiral.
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On Robinson I know that a lot of the so called right don’t want him in attendance tomorrow as he creates too much negativity and they don’t that. I’m sure there are plenty who do though
 
Stevie wonder said:
On Robinson I know that a lot of the so called right don’t want him in attendance tomorrow as he creates too much negativity and they don’t that. I’m sure there are plenty who do though
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If I was right wing I'd be wary of him. He's a self publicist in it for himself. We have a lot of them on the left as well. In all honesty if they removed him from the demo they'd win a lot of hearts and minds across the spectrum I imagine!
 
Walken said:
It absolutely is, and it is quite disturbing you can't see a fault in the system and want to place blame elsewhere so you can passively aggressively accuse minorities of underachieving
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Yeah, there is faults in the system. The United States is a two party system, which is only one more choice than Communist China. In the UK we have FPTP system which I simply don’t believe in. There’s plenty of faults in the system.

However neither of our systems are racist.

East Asians are the most successful ethnic group in the United States. Chinese and Indian workers are earning 10,000 more than their white counterparts in the United Kingdom. I see plenty of minorities achieving and making a success of themselves. And this success is not limited to them, there are 800,000 black millionaires in the United States.

I am sending out a message that anyone can be successful. Yet you are so focused on pigeonholing a whole group of people.
 
catcherintherye said:
If I was right wing I'd be wary of him. He's a self publicist in it for himself. We have a lot of them on the left as well. In all honesty if they removed him from the demo they'd win a lot of hearts and minds across the spectrum I imagine!
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I still think he will turn up. It’s too good an opportunity for him
 
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