Current Affairs London Protests

[Papa Shango]

Ok I draw the line at throwing the sun in a river.

 

[COYBL25]

@chicoazul strikes again lol

 

[mill]

I mean that is ridiculous.
You know what, I could understand if the issue was with the brand name of the lotion (paint it black. What product development team though *that* was a good ideaffs).
But tanning itself as racism. That *is* silly.
Ffs.
Why distract from an important issue with stuff like that.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

yes, they just kicked her and shoved her around

 

[Papa Shango]

It’s a tough one to be honest. I was never a fan of LoG (although went to the same uni as them so well aware of the source material) but I loved the mighty boosh.
The two characters in general are very close to the old minstrel acts which are very offensive.
I don’t think there is intent there but I can totally see why people may draw parallels.

If anything is offensive about Papa Lazerou it would be the depiction of travellers.

The characters trait isn't being "black".

Also his skin (in the show) is actually his real skin, funnily enough he goes "whiteface" during the show as opposed to blackface.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Deffo some sixth form debating society types in this current affairs forum

Has anyone seen Spadge’s irony anywhere?

 

[mill]

If anything is offensive about Papa Lazerou it would be the depiction of travellers.

The characters trait isn't being "black".

Also his skin (in the show) is actually his real skin, funnily enough he goes "whiteface" during the show as opposed to blackface.

I’m just saying I can see how the idea of white actors using black face to depict a character can be offensive, particularly because of how close the make up is to black face. I’m not saying there is intent. I’m saying I can see why it is troubling.

 

[tsubaki]

Has anyone seen Spadge’s irony anywhere?

something far left

 

[Kenshin]

You can watch anything.

Banned films are still available online quite easily.

Not legally though.

It’s valid, but it’s also wrong. We can all see the black people who are at the forefront of BLM. To not see them is remarkable.

Yes you can.

I also see picture upon picture of white people pulling down statues , rioting against police.

I see black people peacefully protesting, I see white people rioting.

And that's my perspective. You are telling me I am wrong on my perspective as well? How the media present the information to me , the images they use , is that then making what I say wrong? I'm only then passing opinion based on how the media present it.

You seem to miss entirely what I say. When it comes to opinion, I'm not wrong. The fact that an opposing opinion is wrong is the biggest issue of all.

Like I keep saying , 100 years ago our ancestors did the exact same thing because they believed they were right. Now people think they are right. What about in another 100 years if people march and riot against white people , will they be right?

 

[Papa Shango]

I’m just saying I can see how the idea of white actors using black face to depict a character can be offensive, particularly because of how close the make up is to black face. I’m not saying there is intent. I’m saying I can see why it is troubling.

Oh I know what you are saying but people need to be careful here I think.

I have never ever seen Papa Lazerou as a blackface gimmick, it's not a black character and the additions of the white around the eyes and mouth should signify that I think. His face is that of a dark clown. Using black paint to paint a characters face is not exactly the same as going blackface.

It will be back up in a week or two anyway.

 

[tsubaki]

Not legally though.

Yes you can.

I also see picture upon picture of white people pulling down statues , rioting against police.

I see black people peacefully protesting, I see white people rioting.

And that's my perspective. You are telling me I am wrong on my perspective as well? How the media present the information to me , the images they use , is that then making what I say wrong? I'm only then passing opinion based on how the media present it.

You seem to miss entirely what I say. When it comes to opinion, I'm not wrong. The fact that an opposing opinion is wrong is the biggest issue of all.

Like I keep saying , 100 years ago our ancestors did the exact same thing because they believed they were right. Now people think they are right. What about in another 100 years if people march and riot against white people , will they be right?

You keep saying it, and it’s still wrong. 100 years ago some people, a very small %, had some riots. This was wrong then and wrong now, and will still be wrong in 100 years.

 

[Kenshin]

You keep saying it, and it’s still wrong. 100 years ago some people, a very small %, had some riots. This was wrong then and wrong now, and will still be wrong in 100 years.

Then it's wrong now to riot , vandalise , assault people. Especially given it's a small % as you put it.

The subject matter is not important , the actions are.

It is hypocritical then to say 100 years ago people were wrong for rioting for what they thought was right and they are right for doing the same now Because their opinion has changed.

Tearing down statues for example is rioting. Attacking police is rioting. Vandalising is rioting.

So you don't agree people should be doing this over black lives matter?

 

[Charro]

Gone with the wind is still on sky for anyone arsed.

 

[tsubaki]

Then it's wrong now to riot , vandalise , assault people. Especially given it's a small % as you put it.

The subject matter is not important , the actions are.

It is hypocritical then to say 100 years ago people were wrong for rioting for what they thought was right and they are right for doing the same now Because their opinion has changed.

Tearing down statues for example is rioting. Attacking police is rioting. Vandalising is rioting.

So you don't agree people should be doing this over black lives matter?

Christ.

People should not riot, but they should protest. Pulling statues down isn’t rioting, though it can take place in riots. Attacking police isn’t rioting, though it can take place in riots. Vandalism isn’t rioting, though it can take place in riots.

 

[Charro]

The white police officer being attacked is all over the news and the Home Secretary has condemned it.