Leighton Baines

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BoysInBlue said:
Two things:

First of all Stubbs said these things LAST WEEK. Ask yourselves why this is now being reported TODAY. This also marks the 5th consecutive time that there has been a story reported about one of our players possibly leaving the club THE DAY BEFORE A GAME. Is this just a coincidence or a concerted efforted to unsettle the player, the club or both? FIFTH CONSECUTIVE TIME. The person who reported this, Sam Wallace of the Independent, was the person who reported Baines wanted to leave a few weeks before the deadline expired. Wallace took loads of stick off Evertonians but was unrepentant. Wallace also hosts a show on Talksport that has had Stubbs as a guest a few times. Stubbs has been Talksport numerous times in the past month. You do the math who Wallace's source was for his story.

Secondly - Stubbs. Not the first time he's undermined the club, and won't be the last. He was the one that told Rooney to go (shared the same agent). He was the one that gave up the chance to captain Everton in Champions League football because he wanted more money and went to SUNDERLAND (!!!) instead. And slated the club on the way out in the media. And then came back 6 months later, tail between his legs, muttering about 'misunderstandings'. I flicked through his book in Waterstones. He covers his departure from Everton, spell at Sunderland and return to Everton in one page.

I've always said his results as Everton U21s boss aren't good enough and that we need someone else with fresh ideas. He's clearly not going anywhere anytime soon now that's brought his mate in (Unsy, who I have no problem with). So we're stuck with Stubbs.

But to come out with this stuff that really hurts the club's stance, because he trying to flog his book and is making speaking appearances on the radio and at things like this at the National Football Museum is really quite poor.
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Spot on. United are ruthless at using arse wipes like Wallace to get the desired results.

As for Stubbs: I dont see how we're stuck with him. He's just a low-level coach, way down the pecking order at Everton. He's very expendable.

I'd get the soon to be sacked Weir in from Sheff United and punt Stubbs. Weir would do for Martinez as he's obviously been trying to get the ball down and play at that club and his approach wouldn't be a million miles away from what's required here. He knows the staff here too. Also, he'd be no internal threat to Martinez now he's fallen on his arse in League One and wouldn't be a serious contender to replace Martinez.
 
ncblue said:
This may seem a stupid question, but I've never understood it so I'm going to ask.

If Baines is under contract till 2015, how can he leave in January? And if you say any player can go whenever they want by just requesting a transfer, then what's the point of offering him (or anyone) a long contract?
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He can't and they can't.

It's just this natural assumption that certain people have that we're going to suddenly give up in the face of Man Utd badgering us for a player they want, because, well, because the great Man Utd always get what they want (well, they used to, pre-Moyes).
 
BoysInBlue said:
Two things:

First of all Stubbs said these things LAST WEEK. Ask yourselves why this is now being reported TODAY. This also marks the 5th consecutive time that there has been a story reported about one of our players possibly leaving the club THE DAY BEFORE A GAME. Is this just a coincidence or a concerted efforted to unsettle the player, the club or both? FIFTH CONSECUTIVE TIME. The person who reported this, Sam Wallace of the Independent, was the person who reported Baines wanted to leave a few weeks before the deadline expired. Wallace took loads of stick off Evertonians but was unrepentant. Wallace also hosts a show on Talksport that has had Stubbs as a guest a few times. Stubbs has been Talksport numerous times in the past month. You do the math who Wallace's source was for his story.

Secondly - Stubbs. Not the first time he's undermined the club, and won't be the last. He was the one that told Rooney to go (shared the same agent). He was the one that gave up the chance to captain Everton in Champions League football because he wanted more money and went to SUNDERLAND (!!!) instead. And slated the club on the way out in the media. And then came back 6 months later, tail between his legs, muttering about 'misunderstandings'. I flicked through his book in Waterstones. He covers his departure from Everton, spell at Sunderland and return to Everton in one page.

I've always said his results as Everton U21s boss aren't good enough and that we need someone else with fresh ideas. He's clearly not going anywhere anytime soon now that's brought his mate in (Unsy, who I have no problem with). So we're stuck with Stubbs.

But to come out with this stuff that really hurts the club's stance, because he trying to flog his book and is making speaking appearances on the radio and at things like this at the National Football Museum is really quite poor.
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Interesting post. I think we are certainly going to see the full weight of Man Us media mates on our backs for some time to come, until they get what/who they want basically. Sad to say Stubbs has got previous with this And while I admire RM for keeping "Evertonians" around him at the club to I think it would be wise of him to ship Stubbs out.
 
I'm quite Calm on this situation tbh. Efc will go on with or without any player. We moved on from Rooney, lescott, Arteta, etc etc in recent times and we'd move on from Baines too if he was sold. And if he was it would be a massive fee for a player of 28/29 who I firmly believe can only decline over the coming years.

Could just be the masterstroke keeping him here this season, see how we do, can we make Europe or scrape a CL spot? Who knows, if we did that it could change everything anyway! If not were a team of change anyway moving forward. His fee may just be crucial moving into this new era.

P.S I'm not supporting selling him, ideally we keep leighton for the rest of his career and he wants to stay for the rest of his career. If he doesn't just make sure it's on our terms and our valuations to provide for our future.
 

BoysInBlue said:
Two things:

First of all Stubbs said these things LAST WEEK. Ask yourselves why this is now being reported TODAY. This also marks the 5th consecutive time that there has been a story reported about one of our players possibly leaving the club THE DAY BEFORE A GAME. Is this just a coincidence or a concerted efforted to unsettle the player, the club or both? FIFTH CONSECUTIVE TIME. The person who reported this, Sam Wallace of the Independent, was the person who reported Baines wanted to leave a few weeks before the deadline expired. Wallace took loads of stick off Evertonians but was unrepentant. Wallace also hosts a show on Talksport that has had Stubbs as a guest a few times. Stubbs has been Talksport numerous times in the past month. You do the math who Wallace's source was for his story.
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Talk about raking someone over the coals based on pure speculation! I know most here don't like him but I think Stubbs is a good blue.
 
Stubbs is making a habit of undermining the club with unprofessional comments like this. As others have said he needs bringing down a peg or 2 and reminded that he's far from irreplaceable.
 

If he's come out making statements regarding our first team squad, with which he really has no business doing, i'd like to think he'l be reprimanded in some way.

Poor behaviour Stubbs.
 

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