Leeds, Leicester and the other small clubs.

[Buckers]

If they can sue us doesn’t it mean all clubs could sue City and any other club that’s overspent? Not sure anyone would want to set that precedent. But any recently relegated club moaning about us should be doing the same about City. It’s not like they wouldn’t be relegation fodder without all their Saudi cash. Sick of listening to the likes of Leeds and Burnley targeting us, why don’t they mention Man City, Chelsea and the rest? Pathetic if you ask me. They should get called out more in the media for being cowardly and only targeting Everton. Like that kid at school who gives the smaller kids grief but kisses the arses of the big kids.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Hang on, hang on.. hasn't our over spend been accredited to stadium costs any way??

That's got nothing to do with football on the pitch..

 

[Blue peter]

Where does it state that? I've seen it mentioned before but from reading the judgment it suggests that a sporting advantage was enjoyed and for four seasons due to COVID.

It states later in the document that we didn't purposely look to gain an advantage and that we thought we would comply with PSR. I've yet to see where it says we didn't gain one.

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In terms of compensation. You would expect that all clubs would potentially be entitled to compensation in each season that a sporting advantage was considered to have been gained. Not only would it effect relegated clubs but clubs who we took points off where those points made the difference in where they finished in the league or similar.

Under the Premier Leagues rules they can, in addition to the points deduction, award compensation to other clubs which we would have to pay.

I'm not convinced that we can be sued for hundreds of millions in a private case brought by the other clubs. We all signed up to the Premier Leagues rules and are governed by them.

Taking the points deduction out of the equation, how can the other clubs say that the sporting advantage we gained was so significant that we would have been relegated in lieu of them had we not had it? They can't. Particularly given it is only a technical breach of PSR and not that we improved the squad significantly.

The only major gripe some of them can have is that the breach was not dealt with in either the 21/22 season or the 22/23 season. Had we been punished in either of those seasons we'd have gone down in place of someone else. That only affects two teams and is ultimately not our fault. It's the fault of the Premier League and the reason they have changed the rules for any future PSR breach.

We couldn’t be sued for all four seasons….only max two of them at the vary most e.g. season 1 we may have enjoyed an advantage but the commission says it could not be quantified.

I can’t be arsed looking back that far but how far clear of the drop zone were we in that first season? The further away we were e.g. if it was a significant number of points, then it’s less likely arguable. Season 2 I think would have been similar to season 1, but its been the last two seasons which have seen us stay up by far tighter margins which I would think are more arguable for any plaintiffs, so hypothetically, if we had not enjoyed the competitive advantage in season 3 and had been relegated without it, then only one club from that season MAY have a case, and we would have been in the Championship in season 4 so that wouldn’t have applied anyway.

Of course, this season won’t apply because of the points we have been deducted (Or potentially deducted subject to the appeal).

I do wonder however if clubs will entertain the idea of suing us if they say they should have weren’t more from an improved PL finish as opposed to just the relegation angle.

 

[Blue peter]

It’s ironic isn’t it that the severity of the penalty is clearly an attempt by the PL to show the Government it can regulate itself, when it has shown the exact opposite, as they can’t even dole out proportionate sanctions.

They have gone from being an absentee regulator to a biased and unfair one. Completely useless.

 

[Marius57]

According to the Times any amount we are required to pay in compensation is taken from the purchase price 777 are paying to Moshiri so whether or not they are the right owners of the club there should be no risk of the club being forced in administration as a result of this.

if the sale doesn’t go through we will be in real trouble

Realistically, only Burnley can have a strong case for compensation as the charge is from that season. The others can claim compensation from the PL for the deduction only taking place this season, but that was not down to us.

West Ham and Sheffield agreed 20m compensation when Sheffield got relegated so that is the precedence. That was 15m spread over 5 years and and extra 5m if the club was sold during that time. So 3m a year for 5 years.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Once again, the clubs can’t sue us. They can claim compensation through the Premier League. But the way the PL rule book is set up, PL clubs can’t go to CAS or law courts.

They’ve no doubt taken legal advice who’ve said they do have a case and tbh id rather pay more attention to that than any of the amateur counsels who spout off here.

I assume the logic may be that the punishment meted out confirms the wrongdoing and therefore that punishment will form the main part of the claim as to why they’ve got every right to seek compensation via the courts.

 

[hallamblue]

They’ve no doubt taken legal advice who’ve said they do have case and tbh id rather pay more attention to that than any of the amateur counsels who spout off here.

I assume the logic may be that the punishment meted out confirms the wrongdoing and therefore that punishment will form the main part of the claim as to why they’ve got every right to seek compensation via the courts.

I think it's like a legal case. Once someone is found guilty of an offence it makes it easier to sue them for compensation.

 

[Kev The Rat]

I think it's like a legal case. Once someone is found guilty of an offence it makes it easier to sue them for compensation.

Exactly that

 

[Marius57]

They’ve no doubt taken legal advice who’ve said they do have a case and tbh id rather pay more attention to that than any of the amateur counsels who spout off here.

I assume the logic may be that the punishment meted out confirms the wrongdoing and therefore that punishment will form the main part of the claim as to why they’ve got every right to seek compensation via the courts.

They’ve literally been told by David Phillips KC (the chair of the commission) that they can apply for compensation as per rules within the PL. There is a report published by the PL about this decision around that dated 9th May.

I’m also taking my information from media outlets who have stated clubs cannot go the law courts or to CAS. For example: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-came-to-its-decision?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[Walken]

They’ve literally been told by David Phillips KC (the chair of the commission) that they can apply for compensation as per rules within the PL. There is a report published by the PL about this decision around that dated 9th May.

I’m also taking my information from media outlets who have stated clubs cannot go the law courts or to CAS. For example: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-came-to-its-decision?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Ignore the doom vampire mate, he will feign expertise to predict the worse outcome.

 

[Yarrgh]

Wasn't there a band called "pop will eat itself"? This is what football will do.

Great band. Still wear my Amalgamation Tour t-shirt for sleeping in despite it being red.

 

[degsy]

Hang on, hang on.. hasn't our over spend been accredited to stadium costs any way??

That's got nothing to do with football on the pitch..

Which is why IF the whingers do try it they won't win as we Are guilty of telling Stadium interest related accountany porkies - not over spending on players that helped relegate them.

Edit; In fact some of those players nearly helped to relegate Us...it's all pind and wiss

 

[Yarrgh]

That’s a bit difficult, I go on holiday to Leeds

Me too.

They may live in a very primitive culture but they live very authentic lives. It's very humbling.

 

[Yarrgh]

Beginning to sound like an Avengers plot.

Which is why no one goes to see the Marvel Universe movies anymore.

 

[Tipp blue]

They’ve no doubt taken legal advice who’ve said they do have a case and tbh id rather pay more attention to that than any of the amateur counsels who spout off here.

I assume the logic may be that the punishment meted out confirms the wrongdoing and therefore that punishment will form the main part of the claim as to why they’ve got every right to seek compensation via the courts.

Absolutely zero way to prove we'd have gone down before any of them..
Them: "Everton gained a sporting advantage and caused us to get relegated".
Everton "OK prove it"
Imigine bringing alternate timelines to a court.