She did not suffer racist abuse. Only a racist minded person would see the situation through that lense.
She has tried to make a situation that she now admits was nothing to do race an issue relating to race. Even Marlene accepts this now.
Read the thread.
Not in the slightest.
Given that even she acknowledges it was not in any way a racist question it woud have been much better if she had answered in a way that did not try and paint it as if the woman asking was a racist. She was just manipulating the situation in a way to get advantage - race baiting.
If I were you I would not have suggested as you did. if it was not a drinken ramble then i'd say you are a barmpot.
I described a situation in which someone hearing that I was from a western country assumed that I'd know Bruce Willis. I did not mention race and it was a direct comparison of a situation in which I have been repeatedly asked about where I was from, nothing confused or rambling in that.
Why do you want a routine situation in that situation to be racist? Why are you trying to suggest that routine screening in prep for an intro was only applicable to 'black' people? Did all of the 'black' people at the event scream racism when screened? Do you hate the royal family? Do you want to see the UK as a racist country? Do you hate white people?
I think she is as dodgy as hell as she has used about 8 different names to apply for funding for her charity and business and has very serious questions about the validity of the approach taken and use of the funds raised.
For the situation she has all but acknowledged that she was race baiting. Why would you want to concdone race baiting is probably more of a question for yourself to reflect upon.
That is such a stupid question I just leave by saying that it is beyond ignorant to have typed that.
Lol
The Palace have already acknowledged its racist. Any reasonable minded person knows its racist to continually harangue a person of colour about not being from Britain. You throw about being a barn pot, but look, only hardened racists would view this line of attack as acceptable. Even the Monarchy have accepted its racist!
It wasnt a drunken rant. It was a question to you, because you use a lot of language which is a bit dubious. Likewise, that you think I'd be a barn pot, or drunk, to think that continually asking a black woman where she is from, after shes already told you, is alarming. You seem a reasonable poster for the most part, so I dont understand the blind spot here, or the idea that it is acceptable.
Even if you dont like the woman, asking her 17 times where she is from, and not accepting her answer that she was born in Britain is not acceptable, on any level. You dont need to be drunk, or a bar pot to see it.
Re Bruce Willis, its just not comparable. It's a bizarre comparison. I went to New York recently, and an elderly couple asked me if I knew Winston Churchill and the Queen. It was quite a sweet, amusing moment, with no malice attached. Yes it was ludicrous, but I can understand there is no racial undertones in that. You're a smart guy, you know the difference.
Can you direct me to where she has admitted race baiting? Or what race baiting even is to you? I have criticised race baiting (by the member of staff, refusing to accept a black woman was British). I am not condoning it at all, so I'm a bit lost on that.
Re the final point, it is a ludicrous question in the abstract, but given your responses it makes sense. Have you said anything critical about a black person being asked 17 times where she is from, after someone refused to accept they were born in Britain. We can agree that is wrong cant we? Or do you sympathise with that line of questioning/thinking.
I genuinely dont know. You seem a very rational and erudite guy, but I'm just checking we are at least on the same page on the big, important questions. It may be that you agree with Lady Hussey though, you dont think they can be British, in which case theres no point discussing it further with you, as we just wont find any common ground.
If you do think they can be British, which I'll work on the assumption you do, it is perhaps worth considering why they would have to prove that on 17 occasions from a single conversation? You dont have to like the woman, or know her name to see that this isnt acceptable.
Or maybe you dont, and I'm drunk and a barn pot for thinking that is an irrelevant and unacceptable line of questioning to a woman who was born in Hackney.
