Haydn
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I suggest that given she was a long-serving, valued and trusted, senior employee of the Royal Family, that her views more likely represent those that are acceptable and prevalent, within that organisation.
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How do we know what her views are? All we know is that she deems a particular black woman in an African style dress to have a conversation worthy ethnic origin.
Haydn
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I disagree, but that’s just my view of the situation.
Her conversation was straight out of the Phil the Greek diplomacy manual.
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I read they themselves are slowly starting to distance themselves for that….
I tend to agree, albeit would hope that that generation / those views are ever so slowly being exorcised.
I suspect the old girl has it in her locker to be offensive to just about anyone that she deemed below her social standing regardless of race, just through an exaggerated belief of being better than those people.
Really asking for trouble putting her in a social gathering of that nature, presumable she’s paid by the sovereign grant, her and her generation / views should have been retired long ago.
Haydn
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Agree 100%.
By being an employed representative of the Royal family, at a formal reception, she ostensibly represents all of us.
Any progressive organisation, or business, which is what the Royal Family are, would have purged the loose cannons in senior positions, ages ago, if their values were in conflict with that of the CEO and board of directors.
Isn’t she also William’s god mother ? So she doesn’t have a distant, employee relationship.
She’s part of the family.
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Rich privileged white English family hold racist beliefs, who’d have thought it.
peteblue
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Again, how do you know her views ? If I were asked a similar question it would have gone “from Liverpool, but originally the family came over from Ireland’… the lady who ‘suffered all this abuse’ needs to get a grip, and the more I hear of her on her now many TV appearances I’m afraid merely reinforces that view.
“ Ms Fulani also rebuffed suggestions that Lady Hussey's remarks had anything to do with her age.
"Let us be clear what this is. I've heard so many suggestions it's about her age and stuff like that, and I think that's kind of a disrespect - an ageism kind of thing.
"I have to really question how this can happen in a space that's supposed to protect women against all kinds of violence.
"Although it's not physical violence - it is an abuse."
Ms Fulani continued: "If you invite people to an event, against domestic abuse, and there are people there from different demographics, I don't see the relevance of whether I'm British or not British.
"I'm very proud of my African heritage. This is like the Windrush thing to me. You're trying to make me unwelcome in my own space."
She added she felt like she was being asked to "denounce my British citizenship".
She then goes on to compare it with violence. I suspect, but do not know, that women who have suffered actual violence may have a different viewpoint. This particular Lady is milking it….
“ Ms Fulani later told BBC News: "Now, violence isn't always physical, it can be verbal.
"And that felt like violence to me, and when you put your hand in my hair like I'm not even a person - you can just do what you want and say what you want - I don't want to be in your presence."
In an interview on ITV's Good Morning Britain, Ms Fulani also said Buckingham Palace had not contacted her about the incident, insisting she would accept an invitation to discuss it with them.
"See, what we're about is positive results, so absolutely, I think a discussion should be held," she said.
Ms Fulani, who was representing her charity which supports women of African and Caribbean heritage across the UK who have faced domestic and sexual abuse, was one of 300 guests at the event where the Queen Consort, Camilla, had warned of a "global pandemic of violence against women".
So you disagree that we can’t know for certain what her views are?
You make your case for her to hold racist beliefs based on this exchange between her and this woman, backed up by the perceived collective racism of the royal family and her historical connections to that group.
Don’t know if many readers on here used to go to any matches in the 70s, but we could collectively label “English football fans” from that era as racist. Are we to assume anyone who belonged to that group automatically holds deep rooted racist views still?
If we are saying that this exchange is undeniable proof of her previously unreported racist views, is it beyond the realms of possibility that this was not a definitive expression of any views?…merely a poorly worded and somewhat condescending attempt to become acquainted?
Haydn
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Sorry, can’t debate the details you may have seen on UK TV.
I’ve only seen what is reported here, (middle East) not a great look.
Is she still employed ? Did the royal family defend her entirely innocent comments ?
Apologies if I’m playing catch up.
I regularly went to Goodison in the 70’s, also watched Colin Crompton on the Comedians and Love Thy Neighbour.
Those experiences didn’t determine my view of what is right, or wrong.
They did provide me though, with a decent guide to racist behaviour, that I disagree with.
Did she ask any of the white people there where they were really from? Doubt she’d have asked me as I sound quite posh and I’m white. Doubt she’d have asked questions that would have told her about my immigrant father and where he came from
Would it have made national news if she did?
Probably not as it’s very different asking a white person in a majority white country where they came from as it is asking a person of colour who is a minority. This was not an event that was based on ethnicity, it was about domestic violence. Why does it matter where her family came from?
peteblue
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Conversation between two women, with an obvious age gap. The younger lady takes offence regarding questions of where she is from. The story is immediately released to the Media, papers, TV etc etc, by the younger lady. The elder lady offers an apology and is removed from her role at the palace. Why did this go public ? Who benefits ? Who suffers ? ….
peteblue
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Similarly, if this was about domestic violence why has it hit every Media platform on the planet. I think the older lady is being treated abominably and will suffer far more pain and anguish than the younger lady who is now getting some seriously wide ranging publicity for her charity. In my view, the older lady behaved in a way that she obviously didn’t believe was insulting, the younger lady is milking this for all the promotion she can get without helping race relations at all, the Palace have knee-jerked because of the ‘race card’ issue. People are getting upset for almost no reason these days, I don’t believe for one second that the older lady intended to cause offence or be ‘racist’, the younger lady needs to grow up and stop playing the race card. This whole unedifying episode does no one any good…but of course the media love it….
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