Kieran Dowell

[gaino92]

He's a poor mans Leon Osman!! Let his contract run out

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Rooney's a bit of an outlier though. Not really fair to this kid to put similar expectations on him.

Beckham and Rooney already mentioned and compared to Dowell in this thread alone.

Elsewhere, I've seen Gascoigne and Scholes.

As I say, this inevitably happens when there's so much acclaim...

Let's hope he has it in him to live up to the expectations being placed on him.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

As if fans should have a say in who is in the squad or not.

Any manager that 'listens to fans' is not good enough.

Alex Ferguson listened to fans when they demanded he switch back to a 4-4-2 Formation

Just saying like

Off topic though, I apologise

Good luck to young Dowell

I'm off

 

[Milkman]

Beckham and Rooney already mentioned and compared to Dowell in this thread alone.

Elsewhere, I've seen Gascoigne and Scholes.

As I say, this inevitably happens when there's so much acclaim...

Let's hope he has it in him to live up to the expectations being placed on him.

Looks like a young Conor McAleny to me. Is that better?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

As if fans should have a say in who is in the squad or not.

Any manager that 'listens to fans' is not good enough.

Of course, Or indeed, any club reacting to this;

I just think it's more a consequence of;
1) A desperate fanbase

 

[DanEFC92]

That's a latte pressure on him

Don't mocha him, Mikey.

 

[gazefc]

Quality goals all 3. Seems to have an eye for goal from outside the box as well, which is quite rare for an Everton player in recent times.

It wont take long for that to be coached out of him and told he's not allowed to shoot. Only young Leon Osman can do that.

 

[Real_madras]

He deserves a place in the squad for the last few games. Next season, look to develop him at a higher level. Loan to the Championship maybe?

 

[blueblue]

Our season is nearly over anyway. We have some games to play that may move us up or down a couple of places. There is a reasonable chance that Leicester may have nothing to play for by the time we go there.

It is the ideal time to give youngsters an outing.

 

[gaino92]

Just give him a few games. If he plays well then great but no point hyping the lad. He's played all of 1 first team game in a dead rubber game against Krasnador. Let him develop without the pressure. We pressure Barkley a hell of a lot when we shouldn't lets not do it to this lad IF he is good enough

 

[Tubey]

Dan absolutely nailed it in the last few pages. Better than I tried to do.

 

[DanEFC92]

Dan absolutely nailed it in the last few pages. Better than I tried to do.

Thanks mate.

 

[catcherintherye]

Do you track all Premier League club digital activity?

I do, part of my day job.

As an example - 3 Facebook updates to Dowell alone in the past 24 hours. You will not find another Premier League Football Club who posted 3 Facebook Updates on a single player in the U21s in under 24 hours.

Excessive.



Conspiracy? Behave.

Ineptitude, with I suspect, an effort to peddle content that doesn't invite negative sentiment. There's a reason why there's no Martinez post match comments on Facebook... Last 10 Facebook updates;

Dowell
Hillsborough
Dowell
Dowell
Wembley
George Shaw
Alan Ball
U21s
EITC
Labone

I'll leave it at this;

There's no benefit to lauding and overhyping an 18 year old - it inevitably increases expectation.

In honesty it is not my job too, but yes I do monitor output. Compared to most other clubs, the level of exposure our young players get is minimal. Most other teams have extensive highlights, some live stream games, some even have their own TV channels who show all of their games and will spend time in the build up picking out key players to watch out for well beyond a twitter post. Often these teams aren't even premiership teams either, Birmingham live stream their youth cup games!

I am not sure what you mean by "behave" around conspiracy. You seem to be taking the position that the club are building up Dowell deliberately and it is connected to the fans. I don't agree with that analysis, I just think there's a lot going on at once. No other clubs might not be putting out 3 facebook updates/twitter posts in 24 hours about an under 21's player, but I doubt very many have as little to shout about as we do.

I agree with your sentiment though, you have to be cautious with young players. I was criticised by people saying Connolly shouldn't have played the derby, for reasons you are identifying, he wasn't ready. In the remaining 4 fixtures Dowell is.

 

[Tubey]

In honesty it is not my job too, but yes I do monitor output. Compared to most other clubs, the level of exposure our young players get is minimal. Most other teams have extensive highlights, some live stream games, some even have their own TV channels who show all of their games and will spend time in the build up picking out key players to watch out for well beyond a twitter post. Often these teams aren't even premiership teams either, Birmingham live stream their youth cup games!

I am not sure what you mean by "behave" around conspiracy. You seem to be taking the position that the club are building up Dowell deliberately and it is connected to the fans. I don't agree with that analysis, I just think there's a lot going on at once. No other clubs might not be putting out 3 facebook updates/twitter posts in 24 hours about an under 21's player, but I doubt very many have as little to shout about as we do.

I agree with your sentiment though, you have to be cautious with young players. I was criticised by people saying Connolly shouldn't have played the derby, for reasons you are identifying, he wasn't ready. In the remaining 4 fixtures Dowell is.

We don't have anything to shout about, as the kid hasn't done anything in the first team yet and therefore shouldn't be depicted as the second coming by the club, scrambling around looking for positives to disguise the negatives and heaping completely unnecessary pressure on the lad himself.

When we should be shouting is when he actually makes it naturally to the first team and does well.

 

[catcherintherye]

We don't have anything to shout about, as the kid hasn't done anything in the first team yet and therefore shouldn't be depicted as the second coming by the club, scrambling around looking for positives to disguise the negatives and heaping completely unnecessary pressure on the lad himself.

When we should be shouting is when he actually makes it naturally to the first team and does well.

Well how do you report under 21 games then? People seem to be conflating all sorts of different things to build a strawman.

It is generally accepted that you need to give some information about the under 21's. Inevitably the output for this will be positive and talk about the positives. If a young players keeps scoring amazing goals, expect them to report this favourably.

If supporters who have nothing to do with the club then start making outlandish statements do so, there is not an awful lot the club can do about this. I am a little bit lost as to what people want the club to do? Not report on under 21 matches? Or on what is a fairly slow news day (ie no press conference, no first team match) make 3 facebook posts about an 18 year old who's scored a hatrick in their reserves?

He is not the second coming. He will not revitalise our season (which is already over). However he is doing quite well for an 18 year old and deserves a bit of praise for some good performance sin our reserves.