mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
trains with the first team all the time and has for a while
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trains with the first team all the time and has for a while
I'd agree, if this wasn't about the 50th significant media comms messaging on the player in just a few months.
Just a few examples...
Let the lad play his game.
Let the lad come into the first team with as little pressure as possible.
As a football club, we've become naive in handling the young lads.
5 days ago. Van Gaal, Rashford 'not ready';
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...tball-news/man-utd-rashford-van-gaal-11222470
Our lot tell the world our young lads are the second coming.
I don't see any benefit to putting this type of pressure on any young lad.
Bedfordshiretoffee
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Put him in the team and we will find out of he is up to it
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
Aye but tbf of the 9 goals hes scored, about 8 have been exceptional and outside the box.
He's lobbed the keeper from 40 yards twice (one being a PL keeper), and lashed in some great strikes and curlers.
Again with the 'to be fair'
To be fair Kiwi - so what?
Do you want me to go and dig you out some Jose Baxter, or John Paul Kissock clips? How about George Green?
This lad could be great, but all this media strategy does is put needless expectation on him.
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
Not disagreeing, I think the club could be more circumspect.
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
However, the club has decided that because of interest they're going to create highlight clips of the u21s.
I see no harm in acknowledging a great piece of skill or a great goal like this lad has scored. As long as it's consistent from player to player and doesn't go overboard (as the club has with the hattrick).
TrixyStevens
Player Valuation: £35m
Bring him in to the senior team gradually, he seems to have some good qualities and comes across as an intelligent lad. It's all about building his profile and seeing what level he's at, he's beyond the u21s so maybe a loan move next season will do him good.
You make a good point, but I think the failures of the players you mention, as well as Branch, Kenny etc. mean that most of the fans will be aware that a lot of prospects have fallen by the wayside and not every youth prospect will make it with the first team. I suppose it depends on the individual mentality of the player as to whether this type of exposure could be potentially harmful to them.
In my opinion, the problem is less the club backing the young players and more the fan base being so willing to turn on young players if they aren't amazing every single week
I have no problem with the club building up the younger players. It gives the impression that you can be a young player at Everton and get a genuine chance, which will only entice better young players to sign with our academy over other clubs
What we need is for supporters to back the players and be patient with them if they aren't pulling up trees every single week
Kiwi
Say NO to Ginger Managers
I don't know about other people but I tend towards just keeping an ear out with the youth side.
There's certainly no guarantees about making it with any youth player, but its nice to hear the kids doing well, and when you hear names over and over again you have an inkling that they might be on the fringes of the squad.
No guarantee of success, from Billy Kenny to Green, we've had talented players come and go.
Scoring goals, albeit screamers is no indication they are first team ready.
There's certainly no guarantees about making it with any youth player, but its nice to hear the kids doing well, and when you hear names over and over again you have an inkling that they might be on the fringes of the squad.
No guarantee of success, from Billy Kenny to Green, we've had talented players come and go.
Scoring goals, albeit screamers is no indication they are first team ready.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I don't really think anyone is putting any pressure on him whatsoever. A number of people who have watched Dowell closely may have the opinion he has the ability to play in the first team. I'm as cautious as anyone about throwing them in for the sake of it, or proclaiming them saviours (see my cautious responses re Connolly playing) but that has to be balanced against the idea that if they are good enough they are old enough.
There is absolutely no pressure on Dowell whatsoever. In the next 4 games nothing would be expected of him but I am firmly of the belief he would give us a different and potentially better option than what we currently have. Tom Davies came on the other week and looked ok, Dowell is well in advance of him currently.
The Rashford argument kind of contradicts what you are saying. He's been thrown in, has done very well. I'm all for cautious steps, but sometimes a bit of meritocracy doesn't go amiss.
They're inevitably quicker to write off/condemn that player if they're billed as the second coming.
The expectation and focus on Dowell now is needlessly heightened because his football club, have been describing this 18 year old as stunning, brilliant and superb. All three words used repeatedly in the past 24 hours, and consistently for about 6 months now.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Not trying to knock you here mate, but other than Martinez has anyone described him as such? Or have they described his goals that way?
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