wow. you want thelwell out because he sat beside perspective new owners and took notes?
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preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £8m
Surprised by how many people are really disappointed/concerned by this decision tbh.
I'm somewhere in the middle on Thelwell, don't think he's really terrible dont think he's necessarily amazing either.
As pointed out in the above posts, we are months away from a total rebuild of the club and thats why I can see the logic behind this decision. We won't get another shot at this rebuild, next summer is our one and only opportunity to build a complete new foundation for the next 10 years + of Everton. Imo handing that off to Thelwell would be too big of a risk.
Thelwell did a good job cutting costs and landing players on very limited resources but next summer is a different box of frogs entirely. We need someone with a serious network in football, something i was never entirely convinced Thelwell had.
I still have a cob on over Sean.
Dwight K Schrute
Player Valuation: £35m
Players purchased at West Ham under Moyes. A few belters obviously, but not many. Poor recruitment overall. Some serious money wasted and plenty of players who have never been any good.
I'd be really wary of assuming Moyes would get it right because he signed some belting players for us between 15 and 20 years ago.
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I'd be really wary of assuming Moyes would get it right because he signed some belting players for us between 15 and 20 years ago.
David Moyes - Purchased players
Diese Übersicht listet alle Spieler auf, die während aller Amtszeiten des Trainers David Moyes verpflichtet wurden.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Nope. Dyche, all by himself. @Eggs said so. Third best manager in his lifetime and he did it all on his own.
tsubaki
Player Valuation: £90m
This is a really bad decision that will only be undone by appointing someone who is immediately obvious as being better than him. I am not sure such a person exists, and even if they do we are probably not going to get them; I’d imagine we will just pay millions to gamble that someone is slightly better than what we have again.
His record at the club speaks for itself; on the playing side at least we’ve gone from being an expensively assembled shambolic collection of basket cases to dare I say it a sensibly run, profitable outfit. When there was an internal debate over whether players were good enough, it stayed internal and most importantly time has proven him right on nearly all of those debates so far. His stance on January transfers was emphatically correct, given that a large part of the waste was down to such panic signings and that not bringing people in forced the two managers involved into reassessing what they had, resulting in better tactics, better performances and ultimately better results.
If we end up appointing someone, like Weir for example, because of his “links” to the club rather than his competence then we may as well start the “Yanks Out!” chants now - because that’s exactly where we will end up sooner rather than later. This club has stood by familiar mediocrity for far too long at this point and it needs to stop.
His record at the club speaks for itself; on the playing side at least we’ve gone from being an expensively assembled shambolic collection of basket cases to dare I say it a sensibly run, profitable outfit. When there was an internal debate over whether players were good enough, it stayed internal and most importantly time has proven him right on nearly all of those debates so far. His stance on January transfers was emphatically correct, given that a large part of the waste was down to such panic signings and that not bringing people in forced the two managers involved into reassessing what they had, resulting in better tactics, better performances and ultimately better results.
If we end up appointing someone, like Weir for example, because of his “links” to the club rather than his competence then we may as well start the “Yanks Out!” chants now - because that’s exactly where we will end up sooner rather than later. This club has stood by familiar mediocrity for far too long at this point and it needs to stop.
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £35m
Read what I said pal.
Being a fine footballer is the important thing in identifying football talent?
Moyes signed some bad players for a lot of money at West Ham
windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
There's a DOF at West Ham. There's a DOF everywhere. If we are really thinking of binning off the role of DOF we will be pretty much the only major club without one. Then what happens when the manager leaves? Going 100% in on a 60+ year old manager and giving them total control of the football club is madness.Players purchased at West Ham under Moyes. A few belters obviously, but not many. Poor recruitment overall. Some serious money wasted and plenty of players who have never been any good.
I'd be really wary of assuming Moyes would get it right because he signed some belting players for us between 15 and 20 years ago.
David Moyes - Purchased players
Diese Übersicht listet alle Spieler auf, die während aller Amtszeiten des Trainers David Moyes verpflichtet wurden.
Bet Thewell has no shortage of suitors when he’s available.
Saying that, the assumption is we’re electing not to renew, it might be Thewell himself has a better offer and doesn’t want to renew.
Saying that, the assumption is we’re electing not to renew, it might be Thewell himself has a better offer and doesn’t want to renew.
Like Dyche I'm very grateful to him for the work he did here, really tough circumstances, adversity and limits.
He brought a lot of money into the football club, he made some very good signings and i think he put down some very promising foundations.
Overall he did a very good job in the context.
Absolutely no beef with him and very grateful as said.
I however have been saying for a while, his contract ending is an opportunity.
The question really is - is he the best DOF we can attract, if the answer is no - he had to move or be moved on. Nothing personal.
Seems like the decision is made.
The proof will be in what happens next - over to you Dan.
My own suspicion is here is Moyes will be running and influencing everything - with help and i wouldn't be overly disappointed with that. However that comes with vaets in terms of sustainability.
He brought a lot of money into the football club, he made some very good signings and i think he put down some very promising foundations.
Overall he did a very good job in the context.
Absolutely no beef with him and very grateful as said.
I however have been saying for a while, his contract ending is an opportunity.
The question really is - is he the best DOF we can attract, if the answer is no - he had to move or be moved on. Nothing personal.
Seems like the decision is made.
The proof will be in what happens next - over to you Dan.
My own suspicion is here is Moyes will be running and influencing everything - with help and i wouldn't be overly disappointed with that. However that comes with vaets in terms of sustainability.
Agree with nearly all of that . For me Thelwell did a fine job in very difficult circumstances at times it looked like only him and Colin Chong were keeping the club afloat. But we move on . TFG need to be showing us what their thinking is in terms of a CEO and whatever the titles of people below them .
BullensRoad
Player Valuation: £35m
Being a fine footballer is the important thing in identifying football talent?
I used to thing he was a chico multi. Sadly hes just got a high opinion of himself.
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