2022/23 Kevin Thelwell

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Obviously we still that need at least two more (midfielder and striker) and if we don't get those then it's a failure regardless of how good the players we've already signed do

However, I'm cautiously optimistic about the players he's sourced

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

For me it is too early to judge Thelwell. The window isn’t even closed. However, since he has been here:

Unsworth has left.
Ferguson has left.
Academy structure changed.

Delph, Tosun, Sigurdssen and Kenny have left.

Van den Beek and El Ghazi loans were ended.

Richarlison has been sold.

Gbamin, Dele, Virginia, Simms and Dobbin loaned.

We have signed Tarkowski, Coady, McNeill, Onana and Vinagre, Maupay

OK so far...

So ten transfers and more likely to happen. Let’s judge him at the end of the window.

Let's do that; good times!

 

[4737carlin]

Is there an award for creative transfer business? The game’s gone man.

At least if we win that it could pipe the 27 years without winning anything clique down.

 

[twoblue]

Deeply unimaginative player recruitment, Onana aside.

Functional. We lacked players with heart. Players we have bought should at least bring that

 

[street end]

What is the point of Thelwell . Scouted all of Europe and the world and all he can come up with is 2 Burnley, 2 Watford (1 ex), a young lad from the French league and now a Brighton reserve. Hardly going to win awards for creative transfer business

Compared to Brands/Walsh who got ripped off signing 2 players from Swansea, Southampton’s 3rd choice right back, several strikers who scored a combined 1 goal, and about 5 number 10’s.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Compared to Brands/Walsh who got ripped off signing 2 players from Swansea, Southampton’s 3rd choice right back, several strikers who scored a combined 1 goal, and about 5 number 10’s.

So what you are saying is D. O. F are a useless waste of time, I agree

 

[street end]

So what you are saying is D. O. F are a useless waste of time, I agree

No, I was comparing the job he has done so far, which we don’t know the results off yet compared to his 2 predecessors.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

So what you are saying is D. O. F are a useless waste of time, I agree

Very few clubs operate without a DoF nowadays.
Football has evolved away from the sole manager model in the same way it moved from having a committee to select teams and decide purchases and promoted the trainer into a manager to assume most of those responsibilities.
Football has become more complex , the scouting system has become global , the academies are expected to be capable of producing players to segue seamlessly into the preferred playing style of the first team , or recoup some of the outlay.
Players have become more powerful than they once were and their welfare must be attended to.
Managers themselves move around more than they used to and a competent and successful DoF provides stability and continuity from one manager to the next.
Consider ManU’s decline since the departure of Ferguson in the absence of a DoF.
Ultimately a DoF allows a manager to concentrate on the role he was primarily hired for, to coach, select and guide the team to success without getting bogged down in the minutiae of administering a multi million pound business.

 

[james_v02]

It is too early to judge. But I see the positives about Thewell so far.

1. Quick to tie down our youth and immediately loan them out to gain match experience and to increase their value as well. No point keeping Dobbin on the bench every game and not use him at all.
2. Finding a market for Dele Alli and Gbamin. Sure, these two are just loans but Brands tend to move players out too slowly.
3. Quicker to action. As soon as Onana was available and keen, you could see the transfer was done swiftly.

The downside so far I would say no being able to get a striker deal done quick enough. It could very well be his hands are tied due to FFP and our poor financial situation.

 

[twoblue]

What is the point of Thelwell . Scouted all of Europe and the world and all he can come up with is 2 Burnley, 2 Watford (1 ex), a young lad from the French league and now a Brighton reserve. Hardly going to win awards for creative transfer business

What does good scouting look like? Where do we buy them?

 

[Bluestar]

Obviously we still that need at least two more (midfielder and striker) and if we don't get those then it's a failure regardless of how good the players we've already signed do

However, I'm cautiously optimistic about the players he's sourced

So we sign six players of that standard for tge sale of Richarlison, plus move on Siggy, Delph, Kenny, Tosun, Dele, Gbamin and it’s a failure??

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

So we sign six players of that standard for tge sale of Richarlison, plus move on Siggy, Delph, Kenny, Tosun, Dele, Gbamin and it’s a failure??

It's a failure if we don't get the striker, yes

If you did a great job buying food and supplies for your apocalyptic bunker but then didn't buy a tin opener you've failed and you're going to starve to death

 

[Billy Dean]

The role of a DOF is not simply buying players. It is much wider than that

 

[Bluestar]

It's a failure if we don't get the striker, yes

If you did a great job buying food and supplies for your apocalyptic bunker but then didn't buy a tin opener you've failed and you're going to starve to death

We have the striker.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Still no striker what is he doing?

At this point with no further sales waiting for transfer deadline, they all are, who blinks first gets the best deal for their club, most likely a loan.